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Pasted is one of numerous articles by this writer that should arouse your intellectualism to appreciate the very few decent beings who see things not from a backward angle, rather from a sound position of reasoning. His combined sense of objective and fiery writings captures and typifies the malady of a corrupting inglorious country of nigeria. The many ignoramuses that parade the north and the entire country have always been on his focal lens without relenting and I give him my thanks.
quote:NUG: Another Northern Political Group Emerges By Usman Yerima
A few days ago, Guardian Newspaper published an article with notification that some members of ACF (Arewa Consultative Forum) recently met in Abuja to form a break away and seperate Organization called NUG (Northern Unity Group). Some of the disgruntled secessionists include the following jokers; Dr. Olusola Saraki, Brig.-Gen. Buba Marwa (rtd), Lawan Kaita, former minister Garba Ali Madaki, Gen. Idris Garba (rtd), Madaki Gwandu, Alhaji Idris Koko, who chaired on behalf of Shettima Ali Mongunu, Paul Unongo, Senator Joseph Waku, Bukar Mandara, former presidential aspirant Lema Jibrilu, Prof. Ango Abdullahi, former governor of Sokoto, Garba Nadama, Senator Illya Gada, Ali Saadu (former Governor of Jigawa), and a bunch of other not so significant players.
Dr. Saraki in his speech expressed discomfort with the position of the ACF on political issues in the country. Here is what he said "When political issues required the reaction of northerners, ACF had claimed to be apolitical but some of the members played politics under the table." I have no idea what the hell that means, but Dr. Saraki went further in the following statement.
"The essence of this meeting is to find the answer to the question of how to solve our problems. Also, the most important of all is the unity of the North. Once we are united, we can move forward. Somebody had asked, how about the ACF? Oh! Yes, I was one of those who started ACF when Alhaji Lawan Kaita and others were going round the northern states to set up the ACF. But every time, everyday, they say they are not politically oriented. Yet, there is nothing you can do in this world without politics. So, if tomorrow, ACF says they are now ready to play politics, then we merge, but if not, we owe it a duty to unite the North. We can't do without politics. There is no way out." " Saraki alleged that the ACF had not given the North the political focus the region deserves, adding that before the 2003 elections, the ACF disappointed northern traditional rulers led by the Sultan of Sokoto, Alhaji Muhammadu Maccido, when they twice asked the forum to decide whether to support President Olusegun Obasanjo's second term bid or produce a northern candidate for presidency.
"Please tell them, those ACF before they say Saraki wants to divide ACF, we are not. Our royal fathers in 2003, called us, the elders of the ACF. They came to Kaduna , about 16 of them led by the Sultan of Sokoto. They said come and tell us, you are our sons, where are you taking us to? Are you going to give Obasanjo a second term or you are going to bring one of you to be the president of Nigeria ? We told them, give us some time. We are going to consult among ourselves. We never did till today. They were not happy.
"After about two months, they called us again. Sultan of Sokoto led the team and said: We came to see you last time and we asked you where we were going; where are we going, elections are very near now, what are you doing? The ACF never met to discuss the issues raised by our royal fathers. The nation got into elections. Every body got everything on a platter of gold. Nothing happened. See where we find ourselves today. So, we have to play politics."
If the useless monologue above was part of a keynote speech in a supposedly serious meeting and non of the attendees got up to leave in disgust, then it is no wonder why Nigeria has fallen from third World to even fifth World status. These wayward men think politics and governance is indeed a game. Nowhere in the civilized World will you ever come across a politician or a public figure refering to politics as a game. Participation in politics is a responsibility and a commitment that outweighs ones selfish interest. That committment is to the interest of the Nigerian people as a whole regardless of ethnicity, religion, sex, beliefs, etc.
By constantly creating sub Organizations like the ACF, and now NUG, and constantly fronting as champions of northern interest, these ignorant men with low mentality undermine the possibility of a clear ideal of unity in the country. They speak of unity of the north on one hand, then turn around and speak of Unity of Nigeria, how stupid and retarded is that? The defficient fools fail to realize that on a national spectrum like this, you cannot have two different interests. You cannot advocate for Northern interest and then national interest. Northern interest, whatever that is, should not take precedence over Nigerian national interest.
I am embarrassed to read some of the above excerpts credited to Dr. Saraki. I have said over and over that jokers who parade themselves as leaders of the north and south have no business in leadership, and Dr. Saraki proves my point exactly. Where is the leadership and competence of this crew if they constantly take their queue from some outdated and out of touch traditional ruler when it comes to the administration and leadership of the country? Here is what Saraki said in his speech.... " Our royal fathers in 2003, called us, the elders of the ACF. They came to Kaduna , about 16 of them led by the Sultan of Sokoto. They said come and tell us, you are our sons, where are you taking us to? Are you going to give Obasanjo a second term or you are going to bring one of you to be the president of Nigeria ? We told them, give us some time. We are going to consult among ourselves. We never did till today. They were not happy." -
The above commentary just blows my mind. So the royal fathers now decide who gets elected? Oh, and because ACF failed to get back to the "fathers" on the choice for President, the fathers were upset. That has to be the most ridiculous item of the day. Why should Nigerians care how the royal fathers feel? Why should the royal fathers be meddling in National politics? Should such meddling not be illegal? Our tax- payer money for one is what sustains the affluent and Kingly lifestyle they enjoy. The Royal fathers contribute nothing, and I mean nothing to society. Their presence brings no prominence to the society, they do not boost tourism in anyway, they deliver no lectures or anything of sort, yet millions of tax-payer Naira and dollars is spent to sustain this irrelevant institution. I find that disturbing, but more disturbing is the fact that confused characters like Saraki and his disciples find it sacred to seek the approval of such out of touch men before they exercise their own opinion as to what is right for Nigeria and Nigerians. I find that very disturbing.
The reason why Nigeria lacks direction is not far fetched. It is not even because well meaning and competent Nigerian are lacking, no, it is because Vagabonds and hyenas have hijacked the political process and control it because guess what, they think it is a game. If the Sultant of Sokoto is so interested in the direction the country is headed, why the hell does he not quit his position as Sultant and freaking join a party and run for office by the way? Why does he constantly influence the outcome of elections from behind the scenes? Is this all self- preservation tactics? My question is this, for the past several decades what has all these false schemings done for the average northern people? How has all these eternal clamour for power and relevance positively affected the lives of millions of northerners whose quest for a better life is being exploited by the con artists in the ACF and now NUG? Dr. Saraki even sounded more ridiculous when he declared that that his group would seek to participate in the proposed national dialogue and emphasised that the region would no longer sit and watch. Sit and watch what? Is he suggesting that since independence, the north has been sitting and watching while the rest of the country went awol? Or is Saraki out of touch with reality? Now, I am even more concerned.
Apparently, he has not been following events in Nigeria . One unidentified Lunatic in attendance had this to say on his part; "Now, people talk of resource control. Honestly, when I hear this, I cry within myself. I remember how Nigeria was being financed before the advent of oil. You know of groundnut in Kano , hides and skin and agriculture in the West. Everybody has forgotten all these now. We now talk of resource control. Of course, I am not saying that we should allow drainage of money but what I am saying is that we are in a federalism and one of the tenets of federalism is that no state should be so strong to be able to fight and take-over the other state. The way we are going with this resource control, you will find out a lot of money will be in the hands of one or two states that they can call your bluff,"
He said. I guess his fear stems from the thought that states that expertly manage their resources might become so powerful over time and then proceed to annex neighboring states? That argument is a no brainer. Why would an economically properous state want to take on further liability by annexing another state? Would such an exercise not require expending significant resources? The entire logic of this reasoning baffles me.
Over and over, Saraki redundantly expresses dismay at the disunity of the north. Apparently, northern people are wising up for once. The entire agenda of the NUG lacks any purpose and common sense. Looking at their nine point agenda, the entire trash is so generic and fails over and over to comprehensively address issues and challenges that face the ordinary northern people they claim to represent. For instance their number three agenda reads as follows:
The group further recognises the apparent weaknesses and expensive nature inherent in the presidential system of government, particularly in a developing country like Nigeria , and therefore calls on delegates to the national conference not to ignore other viable democratic alternatives Fools! Majority of beneficiaries of Presidential generosity and the share size of the presidency are from the north. Now this bunch wants to explore other options of government. Like what? Sultanship system of government? Another no brainer agenda item of the NUG is the second item on their list. It reads like this; That we affirm our commitment to the oneness and indivisibility of Nigeria 's corporate existence in context of equity and justice to its serious components;
This is even laughable. What is a serious component of Nigeria ? Are all territories and regions within Nigeria not Nigerian territory? Are there unserious components that we do not know about? Anyway, the whole damn thing is a sham. My take is simple. This new dyfuctional and independent group of ACF were dissatisfied members whose rise within the ranks had reached its limits. They only chance for them to make a run at political relevance was the self survial decision they made by breaking ranks with the mother ship and staying in the limelight. Eitherway, both them and ACF are useless organizations with no purpose.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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To the Hausa chaps who like our Yoruba neighbors tweaked by my writings the earlier you force yourselves to understand that I am for HONESTY, the earlier you begin to appreciate and enjoy my companionship. While you spill your hearts out there on other threads, do not forget that it was the same ‘evil’ Igbo MeBiafran that started this thread also. Again, you guys remain incredulous towards decent posts, only paying attention to those you see as volatile. Idi Amin daud and his gang of efulefus’ bizarre silence to fair and clean threads are inexplainable. Mature folks see people like me as balanced while kids remain confused.
It is not a rumor, it ca be said loudly that MeBiafran have also written harshly about few Igbo who acted badly; asika, wabara, orji kalu, chris uba, ojo maduekwe, emmanuel iwuanyawu and guess what, Professor Osuji too. Even Cardinal Arinze did not enjoy my support simply for his apathetic attitude towards the mayhem visited upon his flocks by we know who. So, what’s the cry for when my dissatisfaction with the messy attitudes of some folks from a particular area is shared? I laugh at the misguided advocates of the stupid slogan of “one nigeria.” That country does not know what being ONE means, not together and never will.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Since you people have closed the other thread, we can use this useless topic of yours to continue the discussion on anything you wish to discuss. During my days in Nigeria, I learned that the real ignoramuses that parade the North are people from the East. The North does not parade the East. Northerners just go to the East to get what they need. After all, it is one country. If you don't like it, get out.
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You come across most times as a disturbed individual. Nowhere in all my writings have I taken offense to arab north's freedom of migration to the east, south or anywhere for that matter. What in the world are you saying, please explain? From your "During my days in Nigeria, I learned that the real ignoramuses that parade the North are people from the East. The North does not parade the East. Northerners just go to the East to get what they need." is it not clear who's the hate monger between you and I? I hope this is not considered attack on my part? Thanks.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Sheath your swords, man! I hope it's not the way you guys struggle with your heads deep between the legs of Fumi's diva that is driving both of you nuts. That stuff ain't worth it. You feel me?
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I do feel ya. Your humor put a smile on my face. Thanks.
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I don't why I even smiled to Daud's humor but I did. Oh well it's all good, all I gotta say for now.
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quote: During my days in Nigeria, I learned that the real ignoramuses that parade the North are people from the East.
It is this kind of perverted thinking and attitude which led to the 1966-67 progoms which resulted in the killing of thousands of Igbos and other east/south tribes and all other "ethnic cleansing" murders since then in the north are based on this kind of imature and irresponsible attitude.
quote: The North does not parade the East. Northerners just go to the East to get what they need.
Well what a wonderfully conceited statement. So you know? You are hereby telling us that you know that the awusa come to the east to exploit our resources or to "get what they need" as you so succinctly put it. You and your awusa are like a big internal parasite which is slowly sucking the life blood out of the east which the colonial masters subjugated for you. You are now bold enough to confront us with this oppresion brasenly and by you statement flaunt it in our faces, rubbing salt into our wounds as it where. Then you come to the climax which is a paradox
quote: After all, it is one country. If you don't like it, get out.
Daud do I realy need to remind you that we did indeed determine to get out between 1967-70 we sacrificed millions of our young men and women in an attempt to surgicaly remove this parasite called awusa from our system. You refused to let us go and had to call your godfathers the oyibo to come and subdue us again so that you may continue to come to the east to "get what you need". Do I realy need to tell you that we the Igbos would like nothing better than to "get out" as you say from you and your Nigeria. I think even you must have been able to gather that much about the collective "psych" of the Igbo. So let me tell you Daud: We do not like it and do indeed want to get out . So how do you suggest we go about it? tell us and we will surely do it and you will be rid of us and we of you and everybody will be happy. So you have hit the nail on the head. Daud O, we dont like it O, we want to get out O! Tell us what to do.
Don't mind Daud, what you read from him was a last feeble attempt to provoke MeBiafran. You see, that was his job as one of the co-conspirators, but as you can also see, our man didn't take the bait. Of course he could also have been upset at the severe trouncing he got just before the Conference Delegates List thread was closed. He'll calm down later. I don't think he really thought very clearly about what he said before he said it. His Senior wisdom seems to have eluded him this time.
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quote:Of course he could also have been upset at the severe trouncing he got just before the Conference Delegates List thread was closed.
Now I know how it is that you deluded maniacs from Igboland still think you won the 1967-70 Biafra-Nigeria war. You trounced me the same way that Biafra trounced Nigeria in the civil war.
We all know that today, even people from Minority groups, people like Agabi, are the ones who call the shots about what happens to you and your fellow Igbo people. Oh! don't remind me; you are supposed to be an igboafricanamerican. Man and you you were not there when you and your fellow Igbo Igbos were defeated. Go get a life.
You and your fellow handle changers and identity thiefs on this board conspired to close the thread after you attacked me. Unfortunately for you, the truth always finds its way.
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quote:Daud do I realy need to remind you that we did indeed determine to get out between 1967-70 we sacrificed millions of our young men and women in an attempt to surgicaly remove this parasite called awusa from our system. You refused to let us go and had to call your godfathers the oyibo to come and subdue us again so that you may continue to come to the east to "get what you need". Do I realy need to tell you that we the Igbos would like nothing better than to "get out" as you say from you and your Nigeria. I think even you must have been able to gather that much about the collective "psych" of the Igbo. So let me tell you Daud: We do not like it and do indeed want to get out . So how do you suggest we go about it? tell us and we will surely do it and you will be rid of us and we of you and everybody will be happy. So you have hit the nail on the head. Daud O, we dont like it O, we want to get out O! Tell us what to do.
Greg or Ochiwar:
When I said that you Biafrans are free to leave the country, I meant every word of it. You have said that there are 40-million Igbo people. If that is true, then, the only reason that you are still in Nigeria is beacsue you love Nigeria and you want to be in it. How many people are there in East Timor? The Timorese were able to leave even when their land was occupied. The Biafra-Nigeria civil war was fought because Ojukwu did not want Gowon to rule Nigeria; it had nothing to do with the desire of Igbo people to leave the country or even over injustice. The civil war had nothing to do with genocide, or any of the other junk that you and your fellow simpletons have been brainwashed to believe.
Otherwise, why did you and your fellow Igbo people allow Philip Effiong, a non-Igbo, to speak for you about ending the war? Is Philip Effiong an Igbo man?
The truth is that you and your fellow Igbo people love Nigeria and you want to stay in it. Even your hero, Ojukwu, loves the Yoruba language more than he loves the Igbo language. Who is fooling who?
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Where did all this name-calling come from? What is my offense that you so zealously attack me, whom you so recently honored? And why do I detect anger in your voice? I demand an apology at once!
You used to have nice manners for a thief and miscreant, but I'm afraid it's the company you've been keeping lately that has so poorly affected your attitude. Too much cheap gin, underage girls, and late-night conspiracies can corrupt even the best of us Daud. I suggest you give up alcohol, read MeBiafran's first thousand posts, and turn yourself in to Interpol. When(if ever) they let you out of jail, you may then return to Nigeria and run for President(the usual path to power). After your stolen election, we will be glad to remind you of your promise to us today...
quote:When I said that you Biafrans are free to leave the country, I meant every word of it. --Daud419
And I for one, would like to thank you, Mr. President, in advance.
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Daud,
You used to have nice manners ....
Greg:
You are right. It is my practice to show good manners and to give the benefit of the doubt even to serial identity thieves like you when they are first accused. At least, you can not now accuse me of being prejudiced against you.
When you were exposed on this board as a serial identitity thief, I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt. Now, I have to admit that it was a mistake on my part. But, better late than never.
As it happens, your expertise, in identity theft, is one of the fastest growing international crimes by people from your part of Nigeria. That is why I expect your presence here to soon attract the InterPol and other police organizations. You and your fellow wretched Igbo people are in disarray. You are wasted in foreign lands, and all you are able to do is whine and rant against whosoever happens to be in power. If it is not Obasanjo, it will be another Yoruba or Hausa person. Finally, even minorities from your part of the country now know that you and your ilk are nothing but empty barrels with loud noises. Hence, it was a man from Cross river/Akwa Ibom that decided to eliminate your lazy mother tongue from the Nigerian scheme. Go find a dog cage and lick your wounds.
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quote:You are wasted in foreign lands, and all you are able to do is whine and rant against whosoever happens to be in power.
Go and educate yourself concerning this universal truth...
quote:The pen is mightier than the sword
It is also much more humane, something I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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quote: The Biafra-Nigeria civil war... had nothing to do with the desire of Igbo people to leave the country or even over injustice. The civil war had nothing to do with genocide, or any of the other junk that you and your fellow simpletons have been brainwashed to believe.
quote: Otherwise, why did you and your fellow Igbo people allow Philip Effiong, a non-Igbo, to speak for you about ending the war? Is Philip Effiong an Igbo man?
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The truth is that you and your fellow Igbo people love Nigeria and you want to stay in it. Even your hero, Ojukwu, loves the Yoruba language more than he loves the Igbo language. Who is fooling who?
Daud, Daud , Daud. I have never seen so much BULL*S+H+I+T and OP in one post. From your reply I can see that you are so much below my intellectual level that there is no point discussing with you what is obviously a bit too round to enter your square skull. I suggest you educate yourself a little about the history of nigeria from 1960 till date and also do something to improve your logic. Maybe you should go back to your islamic school for a spell although that might not help much for your discussions on this board as we do not use arabic here. I am sorry Alhaji but your post is too childish and your reasoning too shallow to merit a serious reply from me. Let me give you a little demonstration about how silly your "points" are so that you may see the need to further educate yourself;
quote: You have said that there are 40-million Igbo people. If that is true, then, the only reason that you are still in Nigeria is beacsue you love Nigeria and you want to be in it. How many people are there in East Timor? The Timorese were able to leave even when their land was occupied.
By what distorted logic did you deduce the second sentence from the first? What does the number 40million have to do with it? How many million where the south africans when they where enslaved for hundreds of years by a white minority? Or for that matter how many where we in the whole of africa when a handfull of men in ships came and enslaved the whole continent, calling it colonialism. How many million where there in africa, still we where enslaved? How many spaniards conquered and enslaved the whole inka empire under cortes? and how many million where the inca? Your logic stinks dude Daud. So let the truth be said ; We want to leave but it is you awusa who do not want us to leave because you are not quite done looting our resources just yet and because you know that without us you have nothing. Why did lord lugard amalgamate the norht and south protectoretes in 1914? The history books tell us that it was a subvension to the norht who were making a deficit. Since the south was making a surplus, the two where joined to offset the debt of the norht. So you had nothing and we had surpluss and this was well before the discovery of oil in the south. So now we have double surpluss and you still have less than nothing in the north. Thast is why we cannot go anywhere despite your gracious offer. However just as in the case of east timor and south africa we willnot be enslave for ever. You see the situation is about to be turned round. Your muslim fundamental attitude has started to be worrysome for your mentors and protectors the oyibo man and he will soon dissasociate himself from you, cutting you out as the middle man and he will do business directly with the owners of the goods, the south. Where will you stand then ? I know that you are teriffied of this scenario but you might just as well start to face the facts cos it is coming to pass.
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Alhaji Daud, hear from your brother Gowon in todays Vanguard, who is eminently more qualified than you to discuss the 1967-70 events
quote: Gen. Gowon spoke to reporters in Enugu, Sunday during a one-day prayer rally organised by the South-East zone of “Nigeria Prays,” a prayer intercessory body initiated by him nine years ago. He said the Biafran conflict was occasioned by serious threat by Ndigbo to secede from Nigeria, adding that the action was “too bad for the Nigerian Republic.
quote: The Biafra-Nigeria civil war was fought because Ojukwu did not want Gowon to rule Nigeria; it had nothing to do with the desire of Igbo people to leave the country
You can see you are not living in reality. And please if you care to reply come with facts and not insults. Lets keep it on the FACTS level.
quote:Daud, Daud , Daud. I have never seen so much BULL*S+H+I+T and OP in one post. From your reply I can see that you are so much below my intellectual level that there is no point discussing with you what is obviously a bit too round to enter your square skull. I suggest you educate yourself a little about the history of nigeria from 1960 till date and also do something to improve your logic. Maybe you should go back to your islamic school for a spell although that might not help much for your discussions on this board as we do not use arabic here. I am sorry Alhaji but your post is too childish and your reasoning too shallow to merit a serious reply from me. Let me give you a little demonstration about how silly your "points" are so that you may see the need to further educate yourself;
Listen, you dimwit. More intelligent people than you in this forum have tried but failed to circumvent my logic. The garbage you wrote above is typical of you Igbo people. Even as you were going down in total military defeat in 1970, you were busy claiming superiority in all matters, including military, intellectual and other matters. You are so intelligent that you are a slave in Nigeria. Moron!
Before he died, Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe stated very clearly in the Daily Times Newpaper that the reason he made great efforts to secure recognition for Biafra by countries like Tanzania, the Ivory Coast, and Gabon was so Biafra could negotiate to end the hostilities. He went on to say that unfortunately, once those recognitions were obtained, Ojukwu's ego became bloated, and he refused to negotiate. Ojukwu bagan to go around his Biafra shouting "ON ABURI WE STAND!"
More recently, Dr. Okechukwu Ikejiani who was one of Ojukwu's closest advisers during the war stated that Ojukwu failed to negotiate when he should have. See Chinua Achebe Interview Series.
Is it not ironic that you now cite Gowon as an authority in these matters. How convenient! Gowon himself made it clear after Ironsi was overthrown that there was no basis for the unity of Nigeria. Pray tell, when did he have the epihany that you cited? After the July 1966 coup, with the full support of Gowon and without any threat at all of sessation from the East, the coup plotters hoisted the Flag of the Republic of Northern Nigeria at Ikeja. Planes and vehicles were ready to take all northern officers, men, and indigenes back to the North. So when did this so-called fear of sessation develop in Gowon's head? I will educate you.
After Aburi, it became clear that the Supreme Military Council, without Ojukwu, would go forward and effectively (with or without the title) make Gowon the Supreme Commander and successor of Ironsi in an undivided Nigeria, something Ojukwu vehemently opposed, including at Aburi. The so-called regional command structure had been rejected. Ojukwu thought he was too good to serve under Gowon and in his broadcasts during the war he boasted that the war was the longest coup the country had ever seen. To Ojukwu, the war was an attempt by him to stop what he saw as "Gowon's coup." It was no surprise then that Ojukwu fled once his last bunker was about to be captured by Gowon's forces, a clear sign to him that he had failed to stop "Gowon's coup." It was the same "Gowon's coup" logic that led Ojukwu to put a Yoruba man, Banjo, at the head of a force that was to go to Lagos and sack Gowon. After all, in Ojukwu's thinking, it was all about a coup within Nigeria, and not a war to secede per se.
Do you have another example in the world where 40-million people of a nation are ruled by foreigners (Yoruba, Hausa, and now minorities) that they consider inferior? If the Igbo Nation really wanted to secede, and knowing that there was never a chance that Biafra would defeat Nigeria in a conventional war, why did the war end when Ojukwu ran away? Is Ojukwu the same thing as the Igbo Nation? The only nation of 40-million people that stays in any country against its will is a nation of 40-million cowards.
So Ochiwar, you answer the question: is your Igbo nation a nation of cowards, or is it that you really want to stay in Nigeria? Inquiring minds want to know.
P/S: You see, it does not matter to me how you or Greg choose to write. If you focus on the issues, so will I. If you want to trade insults, I will trade insults with you. I respond to you post-by-post. Any post from you or your gang that contains an insult will receive an appropriate response from me.
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quote:P/S: You see, it does not matter to me how you or Greg choose to write. If you focus on the issues, so will I. If you want to trade insults, I will trade insults with you. I respond to you post-by-post. Any post from you or your gang that contains an insult will receive an appropriate response from me.
Let me make one thing clear. I have always respected your writings and wit, whether I agreed with your opinions or not. I think you know this. I have on several occassions made comments and disclaimers(for which I have taken heat) in my posts, aimed particularly at you, so as to not totally alienate you and put us on a mean-spirited level. I admit that tit-for-tat name-calling and insults can range from the harmless and humourous to the angry and serious. My efforts have been to try and keep such as only harmless and humourous, and I guess I expect the same from you. You should remember that it was you who started this latest round of insult-laden humour, first directed at MeBiafran, then at me. Your comments then forced me to respond when I would have gladly stayed out of it. So I played your game with my own brand of insulting humour, and so I expect you now to be a good sport and not be angry. Still, I'm gratified to see you write more and express opinions freely(something I personally haven't seen much of before) because it adds to the richness of this place. Our battles will continue, no doubt, and who knows, next time you might even win.
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Alhaji Daud, I have confirmed now that you are double faced and a blatant liar appart from the fact that you are sadly misguided.
quote: You see, it does not matter to me how you or Greg choose to write. If you focus on the issues, so will I. If you want to trade insults, I will trade insults with you. I respond to you post-by-post. Any post from you or your gang that contains an insult will receive an appropriate response from me.-Daud
You see I do not belong to any gang and I never insulted you in my post but you opened up by calling me a coward, a dimwit and a moron. those are direct insults. Then you end by saying that you focused on the issues and did not insult. cant you see you are mixed up? I belive that you are probably so wraped up that it becomes difficult for you to discern fact from insult. As to the rest of you post...well what can I say? You have proved beyond reasonable doubt what I had earlier advised you that you need serious re and further education. Listen to yourself
quote:Do you have another example in the world where 40-million people of a nation are ruled by foreigners (Yoruba, Hausa, and now minorities) that they consider inferior?
Guy are you sure you can read or is it somebody interpreting this stuff for you? If so tell the person to go back to my post and check because I gave you at least 3 solid examples of where societies of much more than 40 million where enslaved by a handfull go back and take your time to read it well OK?
quote:Is it not ironic that you now cite Gowon as an authority in these matters. How convenient! Gowon himself made it clear after Ironsi was over