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The oppresion is on several levels. But the ultimate architects of this oppresion system where the colonial masters abd they remain those pulling the strings as it where.
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Ochiwar since you've decided to look at the past in order to find an answer to the pressing questions of the present, kindly allow me to remind you of the business deals and contracts which African chiefs and African tribal leaders made with the European slave traders. The story goes that the African leaders sold their own African people into slavery to the Europeans and received guns, mirrors, glass pearls, alcohol and other useless vain trivial things in return.
These kind of deals between the African leaders and the Europeans from the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries went on until slavery was abolished sometime in the 19th century. The slave traders vanished from the scene, and along came the European colonial masters, who continued to make deals with African leaders.
Set the records straight, Ochiwar. The slave traders, the colonial masters and the neo-colonial masters were able and are still able to pull the strings because they had and are still having the full support of African leaders.
Call a spade a spade. Both the Europeans and the Africans are responsible for the evil injustices which are happening in Africa. It's rather unfair to accuse the one without mentioning the other.
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right miss Lilith. when you talk of hitler and the exterminations of the jews and the crimes of the nazis`s you will find that Hitler had willing helpers in all occupied territories who helped him to kill six million jews. You had the vichy in france, the quislings in england, etc. you even had jews working as capos in concentration camps killing their fellow jews. so what? when you read the history of the holocaust now is the blame for the massacre and genocide placed in the laps of those capos and colaborators. Have you ever read that the vichy or the kapos are responsible for the killing of jews? no it is hitler , his nazi party and the germans who are directly blamed for this. In the same vein I think it is only fair that the british carry the responsibility of the mess they made in nigeria. Who de cap fit let dem wear it sista abeg. After all the white man came with his superior moral and philosopical attitude to "civilize" us and teach us democracy etc. he was the teacher we the students. so he is directly responsible if we failed our exams because we were not properly prepared by the teacher. (or was the teacher just teaching nonsense?) thus the record is set straight and I call this spade a dirty shovel. And remember not to ignore the first sentence of my last post "The oppresion is on several levels" That means that yes indeed some africans and even Igbo are involved in the oppression , but i was generalising and digging at the root. De bam.
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Ochiwar with all due respect, I would like to point out to you that
1) the Vichy/Collaborators in France 2) the Quislings/Traitors and 3) the Jewish Kapos
were NOT leaders of their people.
The French Collaborators did not consist of the official French government, neither did the Jewish Kapos consist of the official ruling Jewish council. They were not the official representatives of their nation/tribe/people. All these, the Vichy, Quislings/traitors and the Kapos, were merely ordinary people who worked for the enemy.
Not so in the African context. It is a well-known fact that African leaders, African tribal chiefs and African Kings worked together with the European slave traders and sold their own African people into slavery. That's the evil injustice as perpetrated by African leaders. I'm talking about leaders here, and not ordinary people.
This is what has baffled historians down through the centuries. This is why Africans were not regarded as full human beings by the Europeans for hundreds of years, because no leader/king/queen in her/his right mind would sell her/his nown people into slavery, or work together with the Colonial powers in colonising ones own country.
History has penned down the names of African leaders who were instrumental in selling their own African people to European slave traders. History is full of names of African leaders who worked together with the European colonialists in the 19th and 20th century. Presently we are witnessing a shameful repetition of African history, as African leaders of the 21st century are busy working/collaborating/quisling and "kapoing" with the European "democratic" powers at the expense of the common African people.
Therefore, in analysing the present downcast condition in Africa, one has to acknowledge the role African leaders have played and are still playing in bringing down the African society.
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quote: It is a well-known fact that African leaders, African tribal chiefs and African Kings worked together with the European slave traders and sold their own African people into slavery. That's the evil injustice as perpetrated by African leaders. I'm talking about leaders here,
With all due respect, your history is suspect. May I remind you that Marshal Henri-Philippe Petain who was leader of the Vichy regime was no ordinary French man. He was a War(WW1) hero and prominent leader of the French high command. He was well respected and revered in france until his now infamous role in the Vichy Government.
I am unsure if you are African, but African history is full of leaders who were deposed simply because they did not toe the European line on slavely. From Lagos(?Kosoko Bababoyz a little help here!) to Jaja of Opobo, there were several African leaders who were deposed because of their views on some of these acts.
You should also remember that some of these supposed leaders where "collaborators" simply because the Europeans had deposed the incumbent leader and installed one of "theirs".
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Well Lilith appart from anything else I think you are going a bit off point here. My statement which you are attacking was:
quote: But the ultimate architects of this oppresion system where the colonial masters abd they remain those pulling the strings as it where.
From what I can gather from your argument you are postulating that the african leaders past and present designed this oppresive system against africans by themselves. I am sorry but that is absurd. When you say african kings sold their subjects into slavery I know you are not talking about the Igbo because the Igbo never had any kings until the advent of the white man and his "democracy". your argument stinks of hypocricy and double standards. The vichy did not consist of the official french government but the african criminals who sold their brothers as slaves where the official african government or what ? that BS. You have intentionaly closed you eyes to the fact that these slave trading african where an unscrupulous minority, found mainly in the costal areas in contact with the white man, who where sponored , armed and assisted by the white man in every way to do their dirty work for them. They where no more the official government than you are.
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you've mentioned three groups of traitors, the Quislings, Vichy government, and the Jewish Kapos, and compared them to the African experience. I merely took the liberty to inform you of the fact that the quisling, the Kapos and the French Vichy were not leaders, but merely ordinary people. In your last post you've been silent over the Kapos and the Quislings, thus I take it that you realize that these two groups were not leaders, but ordinary people. This leaves us with the Vichy.
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly on the Vichy issue. Allow me therefore a second attempt.
You're correct in reminding me that the Vichy government was the "official" French government. However, this government was created in a time of war, and did not have the people's mandate. The French government with headquarters in Vichy, France, consisted of French collaborators. The entire Vichy era from 1940-1944 is a source of embarrassment to the French nation. After Charles de Gaule took over leadership in France, many of the Vichy leaders were sentenced to death for war crimes, sabotage and collaborating with the enemy.
The French politicians you've mentioned (Pierre Laval, Joseph Darnand, Petain etc), were all arrested and charged with high treason after the liberation of France. Many of them were convicted of crimes against humanity, executed or jailed for life.
My main point, Ochiwar, is this: The official point of view of the French government was that the Vichy regime was an illegal government distinct from the French Republic.
In France today, nobody regards the Vichy as the official French government of 1940-1944. The Vichy are known as "Collaborateurs", who collaborated and worked hand-in-hand with Nazi Germany.
Thus, since the Vichy government did not act on any mandate from the French people, the are not guilty of what the African leaders did in Africa, and are still doing. In the African context, you have African leaders, African chiefs, African Eze's, African sultans, African Obas, working hand-in-hand with European slave traders and colonialists, selling their own African children into slavery, selling themselves and their land to the Europeans.
quote: From what I can gather from your argument you are postulating that the African leaders past and present designed this oppresive system...written by Ochiwar
No, you've gotten it wrong. That's not what I had written.
Summary: African leaders (including Igbo chiefs) worked and are still working together with European slave traders, European colonialists and European neo-colonialists to the disadvantage of African people. It is therefore unfair to put the entire blame only on the European. Both are to be blamed!
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quote:The official point of view of the French government was that the Vichy regime was an illegal government distinct from the French Republic.
This became the official view after the Nazi's lost the second world war. History is usually written by the victors.
quote: Summary: African leaders (including Igbo chiefs) worked and are still working together with European slave traders, European colonialists and European neo-colonialists to the disadvantage of African people. It is therefore unfair to put the entire blame only on the European. Both are to be blamed!
I have mixed feeling about this post. It is without doubt that Africans "worked and are still working together with European slave traders, European colonialists and European neo-colonialists to the disadvantage of African people." However what I disagree with is the use of the term leaders. Are these elected leaders? or are these people imposed leaders? In your post you made use of the phrase including Igbo chiefs. Herein lies the problem, Igbo's are republican and we have a saying "Igbo enweghi Eze!" Meaning Igbo's dont have Chief's ,Kings etc. The indirect rule( where the British ruled by overthrowing the excisting mornachs) worked in other parts of the country except in Igboland where there were none with few exception. So they went ahead and created the system, hence the excistence of "Igbo Chiefs".
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My problem with your post is that you are using double standards. You refuse to measure the africans with the same standard you use to measure the french.
quote: Thus, since the Vichy government did not act on any mandate from the French people, the are not guilty of what the African leaders did in Africa, and are still doing. In the African context, you have African leaders, African chiefs, African Eze's, African sultans, African Obas, working hand-in-hand with European slave traders and colonialists, selling their own African children into slavery, selling themselves and their land to the Europeans.
quote: In your last post you've been silent over the Kapos and the Quislings, thus I take it that you realize that these two groups were not leaders, but ordinary people. This leaves us with the Vichy.
sorry but again you are wrong. Everything I say applies to the kapos ans the rest as well as the vichy. It would be even easier to prove this for the kapos that is why I did not bother. It would take us far off point and I think my point is proved quite well by using the vichy example so I will leave it at that.
Lilith you have either been completely brainwashed by the colonial history or you are infact a budding racist. check yourself out
quote:This is why Africans were not regarded as full human beings by the Europeans for hundreds of years, because no leader/king/queen in her/his right mind would sell her/his nown people into slavery, or work together with the Colonial powers in colonising ones own country.
Yes o! pettain no be leader abi? he did not send 70,000 french men and women to the nazi concentration camps and slave camps abi? The french where always and still are regarded as full human beings abi? Double standard.
I have never washed the african leaders of all blame on this issue. but my point to you is that you should grant the africans the same releifs you claim for the french in your arrgument otherwise you will always arouse the suspicion of being a little racist.
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Wacko nuff respects for your argument. There is something you said that goes to the core of the argument eliminating other distractions:
quote: The indirect rule( where the British ruled by overthrowing the excisting mornachs) worked in other parts of the country except in Igboland where there were none with few exception. So they went ahead and created the system, hence the excistence of "Igbo Chiefs".
The key words there are "So they(British) went ahead and created the system" . If they created the system (and they did) then they are to be responsible for it. if it is an oppressive system (and it is) then it is their oppresive system and they are to bear the responsibility.
This does not remove from the responsibilty of those criminal african elements that collaborated with the colonial invaders but just as in the case of vichy vs. Hitler, etc the responsibility should be primarily placed on the initiators, inventors, and owners of the system i.e. the Oga and not the boys. You do not use a different yardstick for them and another diffrent one for us. Hence (Lilith) my initial statement that stared all this digresion still stands;
quote: The oppresion is on several levels. But the ultimate architects of this oppresion system where the colonial masters abd they remain those pulling the strings as it where.
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There are more than 100 pleas or concerns voiced out by most of the respondants/delegates at the conference, none has anything to do in keeping the country together. I mean none addressed issues on welfare states dependant on other states for living mostly in the North, religious killings, revenue allocation, and the RIGHT OF INDIVIDUAL. . I mean none, only one man from Imo or Abia state addressed the issue of permanent residency for anyone who has lived in another state for a reasonable time period be given equal treatment under the law. All the issues were about individual states rather than inclusion of national issues. Nigeria's burden is oil, the lazy Moslem North and their dependancy, period.
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Confab notes, Ngige And Uba By Reuben Abati Guardian
"DID you see that photograph in The Vanguard of Tuesday, March 15? That front-page photograph showing two delegates taking a nap at the confab?" "Oh my God. I saw it. It is an award-winning copy. The photograph says it all. It makes a loud and metaphorical statement about the national conference in Abuja. Those two men were not just taking a nap, they were having a deep, sound, sleep. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these days, one of the delegates stands up to make a strong case for the provision of mattresses at the confab".
"Be careful, one of those two gentlemen in The Vanguard photograph is a Bishop of the Church of God. You could be accused of blasphemy".
"You mean the Bishop was probably communing with God. He was in the spirit as they say." "Como't, that Bishop was in deep slumber. In fact, I hear that sleeping at the confab is standard routine. I read in The Punch that one fellow usually arrives at the confab, settles into his seat, and takes off. But miraculously, when the chairman announces a tea break, he would suddenly wake up".
"That is what you get when you load a conference with old men and women, who get tired easily".
"I think the confab should reconsider its stand on the chewing of kolanuts. If most of the delegates are going to make a virtue of snoring and sleeping, then they should be allowed to eat kolanuts".
"Chewing gum should also be allowed. Some of those women may like to keep their mouths busy to keep their ears open.".
"Let them eat anything, including chewing stick, as long as they stay awake" "One delegate was so bored, he forgot to go with his walking stick. Everyday, the Secretary has to go about collecting forgotten walking sticks. Poor Father Kukah. Ah, na wa oh"
"Talking about boredom, I hear the confab is really the headquarters of boredom. I listen to the contributions on television. And I find it boring listening to the same old platitudes. And you need to listen to the accents. Delegates are speaking a variety of Nigerian English - Yoruba English, Efik English, Igbo English, Ibibio English, Ekiti English. I listened to one delegate the other day, and I thought of recommending that the confab should engage the services of interpreters".
"To interprete what? English is the official language at the confab?" "I know. The job of the interpreter will be to interpret the English that some of the delegates speak, and turn it into proper English".
"Ah, go and sit down. Don't worry about the English. We should worry more about the issues" "Such as former military leaders apologising for military rule? I don't see what purpose that is meant to serve. The thing is that people like to use the word apology loosely in this country, even when they do not mean what they are saying. How does a mere apology negate the evils of military rule? People went to the Oputa panel, they shed crocodile tears, and offered apologies. But what happened?" "Well, I think generally the confab is only beginning to warm up. It is likely to become more interesting as the serious issues are thrown up for debate" "I hope so. At least the delegates have to justify the N20,000 per day that they collect. Each one of them takes N140,000 from the Federal Government per week, although the confab sits for only three days in a week".
"Oh they earn more than that. The state delegates receive additional allowances from their state governments. I understand that in a week, a delegate receives about a quarter of a million".
"Wonderful. That is good money. N250,000 per week just for sleeping and snoring on behalf of innocent Nigerians? If that is true, then I do not see this confab ending in three months. The delegates are going to ask for an extension. I mean, what other job would earn someone N250, 000 per week?" "By the way, how did the President get the money with which he is funding the confab? I am not too sure anybody has told us that. I recall that the National Assembly never appropriated any money for the exercise".
"This is Nigeria. I am told the President has approved about one billion for the event".
"But does he have such powers? He cannot spend any money that has not been appropriated, can he? He has to get the Assembly's approval. If he refuses to do so, then, it means he has chosen to overrule the National Assembly".
"That is what he has done." "It is illegal if it is true".
"You are speaking grammar. What does it matter? When the Supreme Court advised and later ruled that the Federal Government should release all monies meant for the local councils in Lagos State, the President on his own chose to re-interpret the Supreme Court. And I tell you, nothing will happen".
"You mean the National Assembly cannot do anything?".
"Which National Assembly? Apart from the House of Representatives which occasionally tries to assert its independence, the Senate often sounds like an extension of the Presidency. You'd see what will happen after the conference. The National Assembly will find itself struggling to remain relevant.".
"I don't think so" "Okay, they will make some noise, but at the end of the day, they will be lobbied and sorted out".
"How?" "What do you mean how? You mean you do not know how? In fact, just to be sure that the National Assembly does not misbehave, some of the delgates are already threatening that they will recommend that the national legislature should be abolished. Or that the deliberations of the conference should be taken directly to the people at a referendum. The delegates don't have such powers but in this country, everybody is allowed to indulge in body language of any sort" "But I have just read a story in The Independent which gave me the impression that things may not be easy as they appear. At least for now".
"What story is that?" "It is this story about how President Obasanjo held a meeting with South-West delegates and Governors in his Ota farm, last weekend".
"I read that story too. Look, I don't believe it. Was the reporter invited to the meeting? Or we are dealing with hearsay passed off as news? ".
"Why are you getting worked up? Are you now working for Obasanjo? You are saying that you do not believe the story but have you seen any rejoinder to it anywhere? If the people who are mentioned in the story think that they have been misrepresented, let them say so. Until they do so, I am willing to give the newspaper the benefit of the doubt".
"Fine. I am listening. But just bear in mind that the Presidency has said again and again that there is no hidden agenda anywhere. Even Makarfi has said so" .
"Leave that one. Is Governor Makarfi now a Special Assistant to the President? In fact, I am planning to do a piece on the Macchiavellian Prince in Obasanjo. At the meeting, the President was said to have told the delegates and the Governors to support the Presidential system of Government at the confab. He also told them to support the amendment of the Constitution to allow for a single-term of six years for the President and that he, Obasanjo, intends to take the first shot and enjoy an additional six years".
"Yes. I am listening".
"Now, the delegates didn't like this. They insisted that if this was Obasanjo's plan, then, why did he call a conference. In fact, one Governor was reported as having stood up to express his preference for the parliamentary system".
"And the President got angry?" "What does it matter?" "It does not make sense to me. It does not add up. I read that story too. You are talking of about 36 delegates and six Governors, with their aides, and hangers-on, hanging around. You mean Obasanjo will go before such a crowd to say something as silly as confessing to the existence of a hidden agenda?" "He was talking to his own people. His own Yoruba brothers".
"Come on, Obasanjo does not have such a hold on Yorubaland. Now, I ask you. Was Governor Bola Tinubu of Lagos State at that meeting? Were the Lagos State delegates invited? If they were there, what did they tell the President? Did they ask him about the Lagos state funds that he has chosen to seize contrary to the rule of law? Would, he, the President, invite Lagos delegates, to a meeting to ask them for a favour, when he is denying them their due rights as the people of Lagos State? You see, the logic does not add up".
"There is no logic in politics. It is all about expediency".
"And that is where you are wrong. There is logic to expediency. For example, President Obasanjo takes himself seriously as an international figure, as a world leader. I don't think he will sacrifice that for another shot at the Nigerian Presidency".
"Your problem is that you always see things on the surface. But this same Obasanjo that you are defending went to the United States, and told his hosts that his government will remove the immunity clause in the Constitution".
"He didn't say will; he said may. Those words mean different things".
"Will. May. Whatever. Why would the President say that when there is a national conference in place that is supposed to represent the collective wishes of the people?" "But the same President has just said that General Babangida and others are free to contest for power at the highest level. At the Commonwealth lecture in London, he upheld the right of the electorate to make their own choices. I mean, he didn't sound like a man with a hidden agenda. He was speaking in London, mind you" "Don't make too much weather out of that. The British have always helped to manipulate the electoral process in Nigeria".
"I refuse to comment on that" "It is public knowledge. Even the British themselves have admitted it".
"No comment".
"I am sorry. I forgot you are a diplomat".
" I can bet that Obasanjo cannot afford to have a hidden agenda that will retain him in power beyond 2007, in the same manner in which I can bet that Kenya is not a serious contender for a seat in an enlarged UN Security Council".
"Kenya?" "It was in the papers".
"Kenya ke. They are asking for animals that have horns, the tortoise is also stepping forward. Is that the kind of horn we are looking for?" "Be careful".
"Oh, come on. It is a joke. Just like the so-called expulsion of Ngige and Chris Uba from the PDP".
"Ah, those guys are out of the PDP oh. In fact, both AD and APGA are already wooing Ngige".
"The PDP has simply exposed itself as an unserious party. It has shot itself in the foot. The issue is not about the membership of Ngige and Uba in the PDP, but the implications of what happened in Anambra State for the rule of law and the democratic process. Both the PDP and the Federal Government are playing games with that. Expelling Ngige and Uba is a cover-up. It is of no use to the average Nigerian".
"The party insists that it is perfectly in order if it chooses to discipline its members. Even Dariye, the Plateau State Governor may be expelled from the party".
"So, is the party saying that it is no longer a family? I thought everything within the party used to be labelled a family affair".
"The family is in disarray".
"It has always been in disarray. The expulsion of Ngige and Uba is not the appropriate response to the Anambra crisis".
"What is?" "The hoodlums who sacked the entire state must be identified and brought to book. Their sponsors must be unmasked and brought before the law. They must be made to pay for the destruction that they engineered. The Anambra crisis is no longer about the PDP expelling its own members. It is a matter for justice and the rule of law".
"Who will enforce that?" "The police and all the other institutions".
"Ah, police? Very soon, you'd start recommending NEPA as a serious institution".
"You know one NEPA official was beaten with charms in Ibadan a few days ago. He had to be taken to Ijebu-Ode before he could be revived with a goat. He could have died.".
"Ijebu-Ode. I have heard about Ijebu-Ode and juju. You mean those things are true?" "I don't know".
"You should know".
"What do you mean I should know?" "What I know is something about Customs? I hear Customs recently caught some smuuglers pbringng Tokunbo brassieres into the country? " "Tokunbo brassieres? You mean some women in this country wear Tokunbo bras? You mean there is a market for Tokunbo bras in this country? You must have seen quite a number of those bras, and "kostes" given your lifestyle" "You dey craze. "
By Emmanuel Aziken Posted to the Web: Wednesday, April 20, 2005
ABUJA —THE credibility of the on-going National Political Reform Conference was on the descent yesterday as controversy dogged the Federal Government’s claim that its draft constitution to the national political reform conference was a product of the All-Party Conference Committee on the review of the constitution.
There are also indications that the draft constitution may drop Igbo as a national language and codify the abolition of the on-shore/off-shore dichotomy in the sharing of national revenue as a constitutional matter.
Last night, the Northern caucus to the conference was meeting to take a position on the draft constitution. Special Adviser to the President on Ethics and Good Governance, Dr. Kanu Agabi, had on Monday confirmed that the controversial draft constitution recommending a single six-year tenure for executive office holders was forwarded to the conference by the Federal Government.
He claimed that the draft constitution was a product of the Clement Ebri All-Party Conference Committee which was constituted at the beginning of the Obasanjo’administration.
However, a position paper circulating among influential delegates at the national conference yesterday debunked the suggestions as it cited developments subsequent to the submission of the Ebri report as evidence of an adulteration of the Ebri recommendations. “For the avoidance of doubt, the draft should not be confused with the one proposed by the All-Party Committee, established by Mr. President, which had worked and officially reported its recommendations some three years ago and a copy of which was circulated to members of the Confab.”
"For instance, some provisions in the draft have been tailored and couched to deal with events, such as the issue pertaining to the process of local government creation and the on-shore/off-shore dichotomy, which occurred after the two official drafts had been reported,” the position paper prepared by a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) for some conference delegates affirmed.
The draft in section 140 (2) provides for a single six-year tenure for the President and in section 186 (2) provides a single six-year tenure for governors. Noting the relegation of the Igbo language as a national language, the position paper exclusively obtained by Vanguard reads: "In a curious and rather inexplicable manner, section 60 (equivalent to section 55 of 1999), the draft proposes for the dropping of Igbo as one of the languages which may be spoken in the National Assembly.
It provides: “The business of the National Assembly shall be conducted in English, Hausa or Yoruba. The NA may, in addition to English, conduct its business in one or more other languages spoken in the country as a National Assembly may by resolution approve.”
The above provision is in contrast to section 55 which specifically mentions Igbo as one of the national languages that may be used for conducting the business of the National Assembly. The draft constitution also hopes to create a constitutional court which shall also be the last arbiter in any effort to impeach the President or a governor from office.
Section 148 (10) 1-3 of the draft constitution states: Appeal shall lie to the Constitutional Court, within 48 hours, from the decision of the National Assembly removing the President or Vice-President from office; The appeal shall be heard and determined within fourteen days; The President or Vice-President shall continue in office until the appeal is determined.
The above provisions are also replicated in the case of the removal of a governor. The draft constitution while limiting the duration within which election petitions shall be heard, however, provides that election petitions not determined within the given period shall be struck out.
The draft in section 311(5) states: “All petitions arising from any election conducted under this Constitution shall be heard from day to day until determined and any petition which has not been determined before the commencement of the term for which the election was held shall lapse and be struck out.”
One delegate in possession of the position paper, rebutted Dr. Agabi’s claim that the draft constitution was a product of the All-Party Committee as he said the report earlier submitted neither envisaged the legal problems arising from the creation of new local governments by some states nor the on-shore/off-shore imbroglio.
The draft constitution in attempting to nullify the Supreme Court pronouncements on the contention between the Lagos State and the Federal Government over the state’s local government funds said in section 10 (7) that the National Assembly shall prescribe uniform guidelines for the creation of local governments.
“Any local government area created in breach of such guidelines shall not be recognized for any purpose whatsoever.” Sub-section 8 of the same section 10, equally affirms that any local government area created outside the provisions of the provisions shall not be entitled to any revenue from the Federation Account either directly or indirectly.
The draft constitution codifies the political solution to the resource control imbroglio by enshrining offshore/onshore dichotomy abrogation act passed by the National Assembly in January 2004 into section 168 of the new constitution.
Upon the revelations, some conference delegates were yesterday affirming that the Federal Government might have prepared a hidden agenda for the conference which it wanted the conference to adopt. Last night, the northern caucus was meeting to deliberate on the development.
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If this so-called draft constitution in fact provides for dropping the Igbo language as one of the national languages used to conduct government business, it is an alarming development, although not altogether unexpected. It is provable fact that the Nigerian state has, since 1967, purposefully and methodically undertaken to obliterate the Igbo people, their nation, and their culture. Long before the war it was known by Nigerians that the lands of Nd'Igbo and their southern neighbors contained fabulous riches in crude oil. For this huge cache of wealth, the leaders of the Yoruba, Hausa, and Fulani envied, persecuted, and sought for a "causus belli" to destroy and dis-possess the Igbo nation. No one should wonder why the Igbo people was singled out as the only perpetrator of the 1966 coup, when in fact there were Yoruba and Hausa among those who took part, and their participation is historical fact; but using the coup as a pretense, the northern and western Nigerians had their "causus belli" to wage war against the unsuspecting Igbo people, to thereby either destroy them completely, or at any rate, dis-possess them of their wealth effectively. Again, history clearly shows us that they planned the the total annihilation of the whole Igbo race.
quote: The programme is outlined as follows: 1. (a) to kill off the Major-General and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, T.J.T. Aguiyi-Ironsi (b) to kill off all the Yamiri Army Officers; (c) and subsequently purge the Army of Yamiri by killing the rest in the ranks. 2. With the aid of the Westerners in the Army, to take complete control of the Armed Forces, the Police and the Navy and to purge off the Yamiri in these Forces too. 3. To kill off and dispossess all the Yamiri domiciled in the Northern Region. 4. To use the control of the Armed Forces to take control of the country's Government. 5. To revenge Sardauna's and Abubakar's death by killing Dr. Zik, Dr. Okpara, Ojukwu and Major Nzeogwu. 6. To destroy Port Harcourt, Enugu and the University of Nigeria, Nsukka. 7. To kill all (a) Yamiri in top civil service posts; (b) all wealthy Yamiri - male and female; (c) all Yamiri educational giants; (d) all grown up males and females of Yamiri; (e) to leave out only sucklings in Yamiri land.
Were these genocidal thieves and murderers motivated only by revenge for the 1966 coup? Why then the anger at only Igbos? Why? because they were spoiling for a fight, to take away the riches of the rightful owners. I'm reminded of the proverb the says that the rich cannot sleep because of his riches. Why? because thieves will always be targeting him. This is what happened t
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