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I wish the heck that the PM applet would work all the time and as soon as someone sends me a PM. It defeats the purpose if you have to make a "Check your PM" post.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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Yes, I stand by what i said, you both are the liers here and it's clear for all to see, if there is lies on the evidence i posted, let the Web Master refute or disown my evidence. I will not add further information on this issue, it's closed, so learn to deal with it.
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What is this thing with you and "applet?" When you receive an e-mail, do you need an applet before you can check it? The PM works just fine. Do you want the webmaster to install whistles, thunder, and lightning that will be triggered when someone sends a PM or what?
Most people here don't need to be reminded on this board before they check their PM. I don't know why you feel you need to do that. I check my e-mail automatically once every ten minutes when I am online. I always get an e-mail when someone has sent me a PM. This morning when I logged on, I saw a flashing message that I have a new PM. But I had already read the PM in my e-mail.
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You're absolutely right. I guess I just want immediate replies. It comes from living in a culture of immediate gratification(America). No more PM stuff for me,OK?
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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Okwy is free to publish my PM to him responding to his revelation of his being banned. If he has deleted it, I still have a copy.
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If Okwy allows me to publish the PM I sent him, it will put rest this idea that he is somehow making things up, but I won't blame him if he doesn't, because it's just deplorable what people are saying and doing right now as regards this relatively unimportant matter.
Greg:
I don't think you are lying when you say that you received PM(s) from Okwy or that you sent PM to Okwy. However, I think it is disengenuous that you would pretend that evidence of PM exchanges between you and Okwy would also prove that Okwy was banned. Indeed, a PM from someone on this board to you is proof that the person has not been banned.
Onyemaechi:
I suspect that Okwy's well documented inability to utilize standard technolgies is part of the reason for Greg's mysterious complaint that there is a problem with the PM system. Okwy probably failed to respond to or acknowledge Greg's PM in a timely manner, leaving the impression in Greg that Okwy received no notification.
Okwy was the same person who requested and received membership in one of the restricted forums on this board some years ago. But, months after he was approved and he had access to the forum, he was on this forum lying through his teeth that he was not a member of that forum.
It turned out that Okwy failed to check his PM and e-mail, and his letter of approval had been sitting there for months. When he was caught, instead of using the same public forum he used to launch his irresponsible allegations on the people conducting the Ojukwu/APGA fundraiser, Okwy decided to send a PM to the victims of his lies. I am afraid that is where we are heading with this latest silly ranting of his.
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Wacko, Okwy couldn't prove how a banned person indulged in a PM fiesta. Another extraordinary piece of magical thinking!
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It has been clear from a long time that you were a liar. Initially it was during the APGA fund when despite being given access to a closed forum, you claimed that your inability to donate was because you did not have access to that forum.
Now you have again openned a thread and abandoned it when the heat became too much. You even tried to drag Greg into this whole sorry affair by attempting to use him to provide alibi for you. That is really low!
Even now you have decided to come back, you rather that continue with the intended jist of your thread, you are trying to deflect attention from the jist of the thread.
MeBiafran challenged you with these words after exhibiting one of those episodes of verbal or should I say key board diarrhoea,
quote:So, I hereby challenge you to link us to any of my posts that support your false accusation against me. My very first post after initially ignoring that thread started by Ineboh was to advice caution followed by stating clearly my disappointment with Ojukwu after the facts began to emerge, which I guess tickled your fancy. Go back to that Ineboh and Ukaobasi's threads to crosscheck this statement
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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The truth has to be told. I think it is time that we came down hard on people for lying to colleaques on this forum. Okwyonwuka was allowed to go free the first time and I believe that is why he is trying to pull that stunt again.
Any way, I think that you have caught him out. Let him provide us with the information which you asked. He has to either provide it or apologise before he is ever taken seriously again.
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Which one you no dey? As bobo like you way get FIVE STAR come dey blow lie like this, me I don carry ONE STAR give you, o'jare. Hahaha!
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It is related by Plutarch that when the Celtic tribes of Britain were finally subdued, their king was brought to Rome in chains, and led before the Senate for judgement and execution(it had been a troublesome and costly war), but instead of begging for his life this warrior-king launched a bold and defiant speech against the Roman state, promising, in the wake of his death, even more stiff resistance against the occupiers of his country, declaring bloody admonitions and stern prophecies of the proud slaughter of many Roman soldiers, and the creation of thousands of Roman orphans and widows. Thus, with blood and fire he upbraided and threatened their very lives, as it were, from the grave. When he had finished speaking, the entire Roman Senate spontaneously rose from their seats with thunderous and sustained applause, in sincere admiration for this man's courage(this is also the origin of the "standing ovation," the ovation being an ancient Roman tradition of honor).
In a like manner I have also admired your fearlessness in meeting any attack from whatever quarter it arises. Having said that, I want to direct your attention to your brother and colleague Mebiafran, who without doubt, has proven to be equally courageous in meeting any challenge no matter who the opponent or what the issue. It pains me to see you two, who have before stood side by side on many issues, go at each other over a simple misunderstanding.
Okwy, I think you know that MeBiafran meant no insult to you concerning the Ben Johnson thing. I think he thought you had apprised yourself of the emerging facts of the APGA crisis and had come to the same conclusions as the majority on this board, that mistakes and political mis-steps were made, and which, as it appears now, cause some real embarassment for Igbo people in general. Though you obviously were offended, I wish you could have overlooked it cos he was not calling you a coward, but a wise man, because certain behavior just can't be well defended, no matter who the protagonist. I hope you follow me here. Brother, that is why MeBiafran was surprised when you came back at him with an attack, and he asked you...
quote:okwyonwuka:
Since when did we turn such vicious enemies? Does abbreviating your name (Okwy) not give you a hint, fella?
...cos he didn't mean it like you interpreted it to mean.
Well, I really want you guys to take a step back from this, especially since I can't divide my loyalty between friends, as I consider both of you to be.
As for MeBiafran's opinions on APGA, I know that he has been on the side of truth from the beginning, and as always, ready to shoot straight, no matter whose ox is gored. He waited for all the facts to come in before he gave a definitive opinion. He gave the benefit of the doubt to him to whom it was due, but when it became clear what kinds of things had been done, he was honestly and visibly upset by the goings-on. I think you know that he has never backed down from calling it like he sees it, and just like you, that takes courage and conviction. So please re-consider your estimation of his position on this APGA crisis and carefully note all that he has said from the beginning. I think you will find he has been more than consistent.
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From the pit of my heart I do thank ya. As for our brother, it is in his best interest to do what you counseled since he’s the one the able forumites are watching with his late support for nonsense. Moreso, after the barrage of bricks started to recede he opened yet another useless thread that brought us back to square one. My record here is there for anyone who still finds me enigmatic to peruse I do not stutter when I write neither do I employ grammatical hiccups as a way to confuse. I am as straight as they come. I guess he misjudged the level of stamina in me to go toe-to-toe with anyone especially on something I know I’m right as in this case. But I do thank you immensely for your interjection however late. (LOL). Nwa Asaba captured the essence of the man MeBiafran by writing " Congratulation. I don't know where you get the time. You are a great Igbo unifier whatever that means" on my 1000 posts. And that’s who I’ll like to remain, that is, if my brothers do not drive me insane. Reference
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:Well, I really want you guys to take a step back from this, especially since I can't divide my loyalty between friends, as I consider both of you to be.
Mr. Greg,
Could you pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssseeeeeeee stop your grandstanding. This is BNW! Forumites agree, disagree, fight, cursed and at the end of the day, they move on to the next thread and that is what make this place thick like in thick forest where it is survival of the fittest among the inhabitants of the forest..
Your friend Okwy told a lie and he was caught, so the best thing for him is what he has adopted, which is no more comment on “this” issue
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It amuses me when i read that 'okwyonwuka' lies, if this is the way to lie, i assume the title of a champion. Truth is the greatest vindicator and i am on the side of truth so i am not deterred with false accusation. After a brief absence in this forum, my first post was started with the 'thank God i am able to post in this forum again' phrase.
Joy, I made my correspondence with the right person and have no more apologies on that.If my private discussion is now for public consumption, i am sorry, i can't help it.
Greg, Your advice is noted. however, this is not a one way responsibility, i think MeBiafra understands me too, may be a joke taken too far, so let appeasement start from the first offender.It's never my intention to drag your name to this issue, i think i am capable of defending my self on what i know i am right. Though, i appreciate your intervention.
All, I still stand on my intention of starting this thread, my take is that the acrimony toward Dim Ojukwu here is unjustifiable.
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What a ludicrous nonsense, who's responsible for the acrimony suffered by Okorie the only guy who came out as honorable from the APGA palaver?
I really don't give a rat ass s.h.i.t about who PMed who and when, the verdict is there for all to see which makes sense. I am nonetheless upset over the lame accusation that I changed my position when it was convenient to do so and I quote, "Your problem is the man Ojukwu, you have not been able to find a level ground, on one hand, you're his great fan, on the other hand, he should be banished because the majority in this forum holds such opinion. When you put your acts together and put up your stand, then, and only then will i take you serious." – Okwyonwuka. When I dared him to take us to any post that would give credence to the madness he again buckled without the expected gentlemanly acknowledgement of his error with a due apology.
quote:So, I hereby challenge you to link us to any of my posts that support your false accusation against me. My very first post after initially ignoring that thread started by Ineboh was to advice caution followed by stating clearly my disappointment with Ojukwu after the facts began to emerge, which I guess tickled your fancy. Go back to that Ineboh and Ukaobasi's threads to crosscheck this statement. – Posted by MeBiafran several days ago.
Olu:
Sorry I had to do this it looks as if someone is working hard to be stubborn. As you would agree, my challenge is yet unmet.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Please go to neutral corners and let this thing die a natural death. Remember, to forgive is divine.
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If we are not careful, we'll all ge distracted away from the main aim of this forum. Let bygones be bygones please. There are greater battles for be fought.
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Those who blindlessly follow any individual no matter who they are or place individuals above any nation will end up with eggs on their faces - TUFIAKWA!!!!
One wonders why Mr. Okorie now cries wolf.
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Okorie:I’ll now expose Ojukwu, Umeh Stories by Chioma Anyagafu Posted to the Web: Saturday, March 12, 2005
THE crisis that engulfed the All Progressive Grand Alliance, APGA, since December last year came to a head, Tuesday, when the party’s embattled national chairman, Chief Chekwas Okorie was arrested and detained by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, based on the petition submitted by the party’s former national treasurer and factional leader, Chief Victor Umeh and thirty others.
In the petition which was shown to Chief Okorie in the office of the EFCC in Abuja during his interrogation, he was said to have allegedly operated the accounts of the party as his personal account in Manny Bank Plc. These allegations and counter allegations which had been on since last year factionalised the party into two with Okorie leading one faction and Umeh leading the other.
The crisis so far had degenerated to the level that attempts by the party’s presidential candidate in the 2003 general elections Dim Odumegwu Emeka Ojukwu to bring reconciliation was deadlocked and somehow widened the gulf between him and his political son, Chief Okorie. At the moment, the seat of the party in the on-going national political reforms conference is yet vacant as Chekwas, the party’s delegate is yet to be accredited.
Umeh, at present, was also said to have been expelled by the Anambra State chapter of the party. Saturday Vanguard spoke to both factional national chairmen on the current crisis tearing the party apart.
Chief Chekwas Okorie, factional national chairman of APGA recently arrested but released on bail by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, on his alleged mismanagement of funds belonging to the party in this encounter gives his own side of the story.
Yes, I was arrested but I have been released. But what happened was that they (political foes) advertised that I was holding a concealed account in Manny Bank and that I was operating the account alone. But I have gone to the EFCC and I’m going to make it public anyway. They claimed that the money allocated to APGA by INEC that I paid it into a fictitious account. That is what they went and told EFCC.
But EFCC has no powers under the law to meddle in the finances of political parties. Chief Audu Ogbeh had petitions accusing him of embezzling funds. EFCC washed its hands off it. Don Etiebet has far more serious petitions in EFCC and they washed their hands off it. But when Odumegwu Ojukwu using Umeh as their tool levelled this stupid allegation meant only to blackmail me, EFCC jumped into action.
When I went to EFCC, I showed them statements of accounts from Manny Bank showing all the lodgements from INEC, showing all the withdrawals made by Umeh from that account. I will make the cheque number public. Then, the same Umeh turned around to go and say that it was a concealed account. You know, when EFCC came, they did not tell me they were arresting me. They told me that I was to come and have a chat and I went on my own. Then we talked.
They said they needed my statement and I made a statement. They needed some documents and I gave them.
The onus is on Umeh who made the allegation to give them evidence but I had to prove my innocence. They gave me the file that contained Umeh’s petition. There was nothing in that file except Umeh’s petition but I was now the one providing evidence to clear my name. Having provided all that, they said ‘alright, the OC (officer in charge) in Abuja here called Alhaji Bala Ciroma said he needed to clear with his chairman before I could go.’ And he kept on wasting time until it was late. He left, saying he was going to come back and that was how I found myself sleeping on a bare floor. Just like that. Of course I was denied my telephone and the next morning, Nigerians heard about it and people started protesting everywhere and by 9 p.m on Wednesday, I was released.
So, that is the situation but I’m going to sue Ojukwu, Umeh and others for libel. I want them to come and prove in court. As for EFCC, our lawyers are already studying the various laws to see whether they had the right to invite me, arrest me or incarcerate me but if they show sufficient apology, then I will take it as one of those things. But as for Umeh, Ojukwu and others, we will meet in court. There is no question about that and the party is also going to react appropriately to Ojukwu’s extreme irresponsibility.
You must have heard how Ojukwu tried to reconcile the factions in APGA. It was all a hoax. He never tried. All he did was go to Hotel Presidential in Enugu. Anybody who calls himself a leader who wants to settle quarrels would do so in his obi (palace). But he went to Hotel Presidential without even inviting me and called up his cousin to read the charges like in a court. He read charges as if he was an IPO (investigating police officer). Then Umeh and Ojukwu sat at the high table, grinning from ear to ear. Afterwards, Justice Dim Ojukwu proceeded to pass judgement on me. Was that how he handled justice when he presided over the state of Biafra?
I should have been at the confab now but it’s because of these problems. But let’s see what happens between now and next week. It’s all in the hands of government but what I’m happy about is that through this, INEC has made a public statement as to who the true leader and chairman of APGA is. Now, for the first time, I’m going to reveal Umeh’s insincerity concerning the account at Manny Bank. He never acknowledged that account as a true account, yet, he made several trips to Abuja as national treasurer of the party to withdraw from that same account. Manny Bank received proper mandate and acted ethically. There is no bank that will give you money without a proper mandate. If they do, that bank will be subjected to serious problem. But we will soon sort all that out.
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Those who blindlessly follow any individual no matter who they are or place individuals above any nation will end up with eggs on their faces - TUFIAKWA!!!!
The same can be said of 2 of you who blindly follow Akujieze.
It smacks of hyprocrisy for you to make that statement seeing that Ekwe Nche has not grown after several years of excistence but has rather dwindled to a 3 man organisation due to the narrow mindedness of these 3 men.
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Wacko: "The same can be said of 2 of you who blindly follow Akujieze. It smacks of hyprocrisy for you to make that statement seeing that Ekwe Nche has not grown after several years of excistence but has rather dwindled to a 3 man organisation due to the narrow mindedness of these 3 men."
Maazi Wacko, what is more important, an organization of 100,000 traitors, MEN/WOMEN without balls, who continue to hide behind the skirts of their wives and are ready to sellout to the slaves masters of Ndi Igbo, and who speak out of both sides of their mouths, or
as you say, three brethren who amongst a few committed Igbo and friends, have brought nigeria to her knees, who stand unshakeably on the truth and bow down to none but Chi Ukwu, who amongst a few committed Igbo and friends, have brought pride to Ndi Igbo at home, that finally Igbo no longer denies herself, ....
Maazi, with Chi Ukwu Igbo, numbers are meaningless for one with Yah, Yah Nwe, Yah Nwe Uwa, Ama Ama Amasi Amasi, Chineke, is uncountable.
All THOSE (419'ers) WHO HAVE USED IGBO WILL BE BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES no matter who they are, and no matter who they continue to sweet talk, and no matter who follow them blindly- IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE, ISEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
IGBO GADI!
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