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How to restore Biafra's independence. I look on these boards and I see the critics of corruption, Islamic domination and the like. I know a great deal of Biafra. In fact I did the profiles of Philip Effiong and Ojukwu ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukwuemeka_Odumegwu_Ojukwu )at wikipedia.com. I think you will find that to be satisfactory. The main problem on these boards throughout Nigeria, and in the Igbo exile community/diaspora is a lack of action and natďvity. I will provide the important steps on how to solve the whole Igbo problem. I. The number one problem is the naiveness of you posters and a possible majority of Igbos and even Africans. You see the resent conference like most others was a farce and general waste of time. Yet even thought you admit they do nothing you all continue to insist on holding more. The problem is why Ojukwu is praised you are forgetting what got him where he was in 1967. How can you claim a conference is the answer when your only claim to fame, Biafra was formed from civil war? II. If your leaders are corrupted why not try to overthrow them instead of just calling them ineffective names and accusing them of being corrupted? Before you go claiming that radicalism ask yourself this question: Why wouldn't it work? Because groups would call ethnic fall however that does NOT have to be the case. The best example of how to handle governments like Obanjo's is to look at the Romanian Revolution. In 1989 Nicolae Ceauşescu was overthrown after over two decades of tyrannical rule. He was the only communist in eastern Europe to resist reform by trying to put down anti-communist protesters in the '80s. III. Stop coming back for more! The international community can put pressure but never like Biafra did to Nigeria. The international community does not condemn the corruption in your country simply because it does NOT care. Just like it has done nothing to stop the Race War/genocide in Sudan, the military junta of Myanmar/Burma, The Rwandan genocide, Somaliland's recognition, the invasion of Abyssinia by Fascist Italy, and countless other things in Africa. Why did the international community allow South Afrika to rule Namibia from 1945-90? Why does it refuse Cabinda's legal rights to independence? When are you going to do something for yourselves and stop begging the UN? The UN wants to see the ethnic groups fight because it makes the oil pump faster! When will Nigeria realized this and cut all ties? When will you Africans stop looking up to Whites and realize you are alone? When will you all ever come to reality? IV. Nigeria must be dissolved. If the Delta people are exploited as you claim why have them in Nigeria at all? If Islamics can not stop trying to enforce Shari'a law why continue to live with them? The whole thing Greg brought up about making Africa hate Nigeria was classic cowardice. Greg does not realize that Africa could care less about Igbo success. You see Africa turned a blind eye from 1967-1970. It did nothing to help Igbo's rights in 1966 and does likewise today. You see it is African fools who embrace the White drawn boarders. You see Africa claims unity is important yet neglects to explain why that is a reason to force their will over ethnic groups. You see Africa claims to be trying to keep the peace by keeping these inter-ethnic boarders but is that not the most idiotic decree in history? There will be civil war they claim. Yet want keeping them trapped lead to occasional internal wars that are even worse because they keep occurring? Is that not the case in RWANDA? NORTHERN SOMALIA? SUDAN? BURUNDI? What are those internal conflicts due to? A lack of separation between blood enemies. This must occur in Nigeria. Nigeria is a phony nation. Before it Igbos had their own nation Yorůbá's as well, Arewa, Delta and all the rest. NIGERIA MUST BE ABOLISHED TOMORROW! It was invented to trap you together to make you weak. If the oil happened to be on Biafran coil so be it. If its half and half that is fine.
V. The intellectuals must be silenced. The bottom line is the African intellectual has always been a/lead to debacle. People like Greg and Biafra do not know what independence are. They believe they're fancy words and restraint make them high and equal to 'civilized' White higherarchy. There is no hope with fools like him about. You see a full scale civil war and the thought of declaring war against neo-colonialist wouldn't be civilized and unintelectual. He neglects to point out how many European nations that dominated Africa fought for independence. The fact of the matter is violence is not a sin if done for the right reasons. VI. Finally the Gandhi myth. Most of you might think non-violent protests does good but you are sadly mistaken. No one cares and if anything you come off as effective as San Marino challenging China to anything. Even though India was under the yoke of White power and imperialism during World War II all though there were a majority of White officers the Indian army was largely autonomous. That is the reason that in many of the casualty lists of WW II you'll see India as a nation involved. You see up until WW II Gandhi's peaceful protests had failed until he realized that Churchill was desperate. He recognized this and threatened a full scale mutiny if India did not receive independence from the English crown. Church Hill agreed right after to give India independence as soon as the war ended. How ever there is another factor. Subhas Chandra Bose led the Provisional Government of Free India and declared India's independence on October 21, 1943. He was smart enough to come into alliance with the Japanese Empire and as a result all members of the Axis Powers recognized India's independence. Its also worth mentioning that Syria took advantage of the fall of France and on January 1, 1944 succeeding from the French Empire. French West Africa remained ignorant and loyal as a blood hound to a red neck. on November 26, 1941, Lebanon declares independence from Vichy France. The best thing about it all is that independence was on THEIR TERMS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL BRING BIAFRA ALIVE. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL SAVE THE IGBO ONCE AND FOR ALL!
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Anothoy you want be saying that after muslims cut off your hand. Judge the name Biafra comes from the Bight of Biafra. Is that specific enough?
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When I said in another post about mentally jousting with intellectuals I was poking fun at you. I do not consider myself an intellectual. That appellation is reserved for the Achebe's and Soyinka's of the world. My own description of myself would be more like a dust-mite on the world's door mat. Everybody's opinion counts, but I had reason to belittle yours at the time.
I do see however that you were more organized in your last post. But I don't think you altogether understand me, or my feelings about Biafran actualization. Did it ever occur to you that others have, years ago, made similar conclusions concerning how to achieve it, or did you think you would be the first to enlighten "us Africans." From the tenor of your posts, you obviously suffer from the same thing you accuse us of. I guess we are too dumb to think for ourselves, as you have intimated.
By the way, your handle, "Confederate," I take it, refers to the Confederate States of America, the pro-slavery entity that was obliterated with the help of many African-Americans; all the more so since you are writing from East Tennessee, a confederate stronghold and home to Nathan Bedford Forrest, the most vile and shameless protagonist of the Ku Klux Klan. Is he, by any chance, one of your heroes? You might enjoy this...
quote: Early Life
Forrest was born to a poor middle Tennessee family on July 13, 1821 in the Bedford County town of Chapel Hill. Forrest became the head of his family at the age of 17, following his father's death, and despite having no formal education, he determined to pull himself and his family up from the poverty that enmired them. Ultimately, he became a businessman, a plantation owner and a slave trader. He put his younger brothers through college, provided for his mother and by the time the American Civil War broke out in 1861, had become a millionaire, one of the richest men in the U.S. South.
Military Career
Given that Forrest earned much of his money in the slave trade, he naturally favored the Confederate side in the war. Using his own money, he raised and equipped a regiment of Tennessee volunteer soldiers to fight in the Confederate army. Forrest himself wanted no more than to fight for the Confederacy as a private, but because of his prominence in society and the fact he had raised the troops himself, he ended up as their commanding officer, with the rank of Colonel...
--Wikipedia
Enough of this garbage...
As I was saying, you obviously identify with the Confederacy in America of the 1860's. The Confederacy fought to keep Africans in slavery and believed in their own superiority over blacks. Since your handle hearkens back to that abomination, is it unreasonable to believe that you also have the same feelings about Africans. After all, you've called us n*gg*rs, and coons in your first few days of posting to this forum. So I guess now we ought to accept your advice as the answer from heaven, cos us "dumb Africans(to use your words) can't think for ourselves, but we need some hill-billy from east Tennesse to show us the light. Well, thank you massah, we is all edumacated now! Yassuh! we sho' is!
Confederate, I have to thank you for showing Africans what Southern American rednecks are really like(if, of course, that is who you really are). Could it be you are trying to goad us into a graphic discussion in public of something that is better to be done in private? To say that I question your motives is an understatement.
P.S. If you are really in favor of Biafran actualization(which I find hard to believe), thank you for saying so, but we can think for ourselves, and, if there is anything you have said that is a valid point, you can rest assured that we have long ago considered it.
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I have read some of your other posts. Even if you are not a Southern American redneck and Ku Klux Klan supporter, one wonders why anyone with an iota of African descent would choose such a handle and purport to be from that part of America.
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When I said in another post about mentally jousting with intellectuals I was poking fun at you. I do not consider myself an intellectual. That appellation is reserved for the Achebe's and Soyinka's of the world. My own description of myself would be more like a dust-mite on the world's door mat. Everybody's opinion counts, but I had reason to belittle yours at the time.
I do see however that you were more organized in your last post. But I don't think you altogether understand me, or my feelings about Biafran actualization. Did it ever occur to you that others have, years ago, made similar conclusions concerning how to achieve it, or did you think you would be the first to enlighten "us Africans." From the tenor of your posts, you obviously suffer from the same thing you accuse us of. I guess we are too dumb to think for ourselves, as you have intimated.
By the way, your handle, "Confederate," I take it, refers to the Confederate States of America, the pro-slavery entity that was obliterated with the help of many African-Americans; all the more so since you are writing from East Tennessee, a confederate stronghold and home to Nathan Bedford Forrest, the most vile and shameless protagonist of the Ku Klux Klan. Is he, by any chance, one of your heroes? You might enjoy this...
Funny thing. Way back when I was in 8th grade and are high school used the rebel flag for its school flab for the rebels my teacher who was White said some Black parent had complained. Well I was the only Black in class and she looked at me and went out of her way to explain that "this part of Tennessee" ie East Tennessee was always oposed to the Confederacy. Of course knowing about W. Virginia I wondred why E. Tenn. was not its on state. Had the union of recognized it it would be surrounded on all sides. Now I as a Black am free to support the Confederacy. I believe that had I encountered Forrest I probally would've shot him to death. If there was one Confederate I respected it will always be Robert E. Lee. He was no racist or fantatical slave advocate. In fact Lincoln had suggested Blacks be exiled to Africa. If the Klan had "road are assess" as some would say then its due to the idiotic cowardice we inherited from Africa. Forrest is no greater a represinitive of the Confederacy as the man below is of you
So tell me do you know that the last confederate general to surrender was Native American? I really diddnt know what to put but my home state is North Carolina and I for the most part renounce Tennessee however I must give it credit for being one if the only ex-Confederate state to give Black Southern Troops their pensions. Here are a few that tried with the support of fellow White Confederates. Here are a few just posing for a quick pic
Also its quite ironic that confederate means of the/a confederacy and that a conferacy is an unlawful alliance. Was not Biafra considored an unlawful alliance in the eyes of Africa for no good reason? If any racial elements were present during succesion it would not have to due with Black bondage but rather the White Southerns thirst to be rogue. The civil war was faught because Whites in the South just cant settle down or listen to anyone. They are do what they want brats.. As for my racial slurs towards Africans it has to do with your dealing with Black Americans in Liberia. From the begging of the founding in 1847 Africans in Liberia were either off in the head, unwilling to stop the advance of white power, routed for it.., or caused the typical disorder you saw in Mogadishu in 1993. You all got to your barely song like chants and caused conflicts. Most of the abuse caused by Americoes is due to your attemps to let the nation fall to White France and White Britain. Now I for one support change but the constant coup logic withen the thoughts of Africa is rediculous. The constant coups based on failares, power outages, or lack of rise or anything is out of control. The new coup does no good and it gets quite old. For the most part I use Liberia as a example of the differences between Blacks and Africans. It is through Liberia that no big mouth White can blame me for your debacles. Of course Liberia was one of the last books on an African country I got from the library. I was surprised to see no coups until bam! President Tolbert who was really a good man all and all was overthrown by an African who claimed to be doing it for Africans yet went to discriminating against most ethnic groups but his own. It is only after the African coup of the man below Samual Kanon Doe that the anarcy you see today in Liberia. Granted Tubman and King needed to be assinated all other Liberian leaders were fine.
Although I renounce African blood I take pride in being Black. I'm fed up with Africans excepting everything like its nothing. Your passive behaviar is discusting. HOWEVER, there are exceptions. I do hope to help Somalilanders and I believe they are an example Africa should follow. The fact that Africa blocks their's and Cabinda's recognition boils my blood to an extreme. I diddn't approve of Africans fighting for Whites in WWII. I dont like how you always say that war freed you. The fact of the matter is that is impossible. You see you waited until 1960 or the late fifties to demand independence. You actually alowed them to regroup. Thats why even though Croatia faught with Nazi Germany I still think Africans should look to them for example. I dont support White power but the bottom line is the Independent State of Croatia could either remain abused in Yugoslavia or support Germany and get the Axis recognition. It freed them at a price of their Jews and Gyptsies, and Serbs. I dont agree with that but I couldn't blame them from taking advantage of a chance to get out of their mariage with Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia and Nigeria are the same.. Now look to Syria and Lebanon. Now those countries have had their problems but I believe they'd be alot worse if they diddn't get freedom on their terms. They took advantage of the fall of France to Germany. Syria succeeded from Vichy France. Had Igbos had done that to the Brits during the blitskrieg there might still be a Nigeria but you wouldnt be apart of it and you could live in peace. Bottom line is you are all pretty well educated and I believe for your own health you must be alowed to choose your own away from others. The formation of Biafra was the right move. I'm not sure what to say though. Your war was major and I believe that its not fair to say you lost due to Africa's interference of your recognition. Because Africans blocked you I am very angry. They blocked you because they do not use logic. Can they not find it odd that when Whites come in their are about 6 countries yet when they leave you end up with 1 or 2? Africa's attemp at recognizingthat as okay is one of the greatest debacles of all time I believe. I'm however always making exceptions. The Kongo Kingdom is something to be proud of. I highly respect Emperor Menilik II of Ethiopia. Ditto for the Mad Mullah. The Nama right before WW I showed amazing courage. So did the Zulus. If more Africans were like them Africa would be better off. I can never hate you ALL but the majority have made the move of acting out of stupidity and continue to force others who want nothing of it to be apart of it. I hate how you cant keep your hands off. Its like a rape that never ends because your still on your back. If there are Africans who can succeeed I will of course exstend a hand. Its just crindging to see the former Biafrans argue like typical Africans. By typical I mean how you keep asking what should be done. Or you call for international attention or you keep having a believe in these conferences that do nothing. Some times Africans are hardheaded. Its sad to see the Igbos fall into that crowd.
P.S. If you thought Lincoln "freed" the slaves Greg you probally also thought Nkruma was a great statesmen. He was a president for life... As for what I said already being done and ineffective I might say that the things I suggest you Igbos do would work if you just stopped leaving in la la land. Its like with socialism. They say it feald Africa but that isnt fair because all of Africa's socialistic/Sovied aided leaders were usualy always elementry school fascists in socialist and communist clothing.
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quote:Now I as a Black am free to support the Confederacy. I believe that had I encountered Forrest I probally would've shot him to death. If there was one Confederate I respected it will always be Robert E. Lee.
--Confederate
Let me preface this posting by saying that it is the last I will make to you. Contrary to what you may think, I understand you quite well. I know your kind. It embarasses me that someone who claims to have African blood would support and show sympathy for the infamous Confederate States of America and the army of pro-slavery. You see, I was born African-American, and lived for 12 years in West Tennessee, where African-Americans are the overwhelming majority of the residents. We have a word for your type; "Oreo", that is, black on the outside, but white on the inside. Personally I don't believe you have any African blood at all, but are masquerading as such. Yet for the purposes of this post, I will make that rather difficult assumption.
You should know that I am an A-A that has no dealings with people like you. I don't think it is inaccurate to say that I utterly despise people like you. I think all that have read your latest posts will understand what I mean. You have posted pictures of ignorant and mis-guided blacks who supported the Confederacy so as to justify your own sympathies with it. I might add that it was only in the last desperate days of that abomination to humanity that it offered freedom to blacks who would join its army. Only a very few were ignorant enough to join and most never saw any combat. And how stupid do you have to be to think that the Confederacy harboured any goodwill toward Africans, seeing that the fight was to keep alive the institution of slavery. So here you come glorifying a few ignorant blacks who fought(this is debatable) to keep their own kin in bondage. And now you also boldly announce your unqualified support and admiration for the racist Confederate States of America and expect us to believe you are of African descent. Please! take that idiocy back to the racists of East Tennesse whom you love and worship(cos in reality, you are one...but back to my assumption). As you have claimed, you were the only black in your class. Therefore I'm not surprised at the colossal brainwashing you received there. Moreover, your teacher lied through her teeth about East Tennessee not being Confederate(but in fact, it's only you who is the liar), and you know it's a lie, yet you foist this nonsense on us as if we are children, to be told tall tales.
I'm convinced you are a Southern American racist who, for some reason, has an interest in African history. There are tale-tell signs all over your posts. I can spot you from from a mile away, because I know your people. I know how they think. And I know you as well, cos you're one of them. No matter how much you say you sympathize with Nd'Igbo, such sympathy and/or support should be refused, in the same way that help from the murderer of one's brother should be refused. We don't need advice from devils to secure our blessings. Furthermore, I don't need, nor will I accept your patronizing and supremacist(though you are sadly mistaken) attitude toward people of African descent. I don't tolerate your type, and I kill a snake wherever I find it, so have a care for your puny tri-angular head. Good riddance.
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So you have yet to explain what the Union offered. You have also not explained how if Lincoln was so damn good the almighty Union allowed for the establish of White power coast to coast and nation wide. We have a word for you: naive. I AM NOT EAST TENNESSEAN I AM ALL NORTH CAROLINA. That is my home. You see anyone who calls himself African-American is just a BLACK person who was to afraid to fight White people face to face so decided to show defiance as weak as some stupid rebelling teenager. I said I was the only Black in THAT class. Contrary to your filthy district are school could afford various periods allowing me to have seven. Gym was with my good friend Marvin who all the goofy white kids looked up to. There was some Asians in first period. At breakfast always with the Black kids, Nikos, Marvin, Jeremiah, Steffan, and cris. Unlike you my poor idiotic friend I could less about slavery. I care about restraining WHITE P O W E R! I supported the Confederacy because I am a master strategist and know what needs to be done. The more desperate the White southerns where to get away from the Union the more that could be used to force their hands and manipulate them. I'm smart enough to know that slavery was important but at the end of the day the Whites in the south would do anything to be able to act as rouge and rebellious as they always do. I would've been smart enough to give them an ultimatum: We help free your states you grant rights right NOW. As an African-American you of course are all to eager to serve Whites then later complain about how they did not fulfill their end of the bargain. As a Black I would've been smart enough to know that if FDR was begging Liberians for rubber that it would be a good time to discuss segregation laws at that exact moment. I would've been smart enough to known that if FDR was desperate for troops that Blacks could use that to get what they want. As an African-American you would've just muttered under your breath how you were tired of being abused. Unlike me you would've however received a gun from the army continue to serve a a Klansman of a platoon sergeant come home and then expect things to change even though you made no demands for it. I would've of come home a veteran to lynch mobs because I would've been smart enough to not give in until my demands for respect were either granted or my mutiny was long over. Unlike you I fear no White man and I know how to defend myself. If they had touched me in those ol' Jim Crow days I would've marched, not on the streets but right over their heads. If I was alive in 1917 and I was in the D.C. area I would've shot Wilson dead for his racism. You as an African-American and not a BLACK MAN as I would do nothing but throw up the useless pickets sign and get busted with the usual batons. You see we've got very different views. This is yourkind of man
[/IMG] And this is my kind of man! I hate African-American White ass lickers. You got your votes taken away in Florida in 2000. What did you do? Started the stupid protests! You dont march when your votes are taken. YOU FIGHT! You flood the governor's mansion. You lead a rebellion. YOU DO ANYTHING! I DONT RESPECT COWARDS, PACIFISTS, OR THE NAIVE! You are all three! The union army? Aren't you living on Indian land punk? What was their reason for joining forces with the Confederacy? I don't care about slavery just an end to White Power and stupidity. I am to smart to march like a fool. Are you?
You listen and you listen good Greg. IM GOTDAMN TIRED OF PUNKS AND COWARDS LIKE YOU IN MY RACE. IF YOU WERE IN CHARGE WE WOULD BE DEAD BY NOW! YOUR THE SAME WHITE ASS KISSING SCUM I SEE ALL OVER AFRICA. YOU ALL HAVE GOT TO GO AND SOON! If you could hear how damn hard I grit my teeth at you..
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When the AFRICAN assisted in the fall of the Asante you lost my membership..
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quote:No matter where you come from, as long as you are a black man, you are AFRICAN!!!
Precisely so. That of course excludes this imposter on our forum.
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Im an imposter for calling u out as a white ass licker? What a chump. What has the Worl come to..
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