Below is a joke on OBJ's anti-corruption war. The joke is presently making the rounds in BiafraNigeria.
I decided to open a thread on it and not let it to get lost in the thread on Efulefu Wabara, so that we can question whether this is really a joke.
The joke is:
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Even in fraud, Igbos are being marginalised: Abacha $5b; Tafa N15b; Makanjuola N450m. Then Wabara's only N55m, Hell broke loose. Why? Haba!
I do not know who originated the above. It came to me via text message. But in it may lie the Huge Joke in OBJ's anti-corruption war. What do you think?
___________________ "Udo, Njiko na Nwere onwe anyi" Posts: 53 | From: PH, BIAFRA | Registered: Dec 2003
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Alchemist I am glad I came across this message and revelation from you. I must say you have managed to convince me. I had thought before that we the Igbo were indeed being marginalized. I had thought previously that the intolerable state of nigeian roads or infact fedral infrastructure as compared to other parts of the country where an indication of that marginalisation. I had thought that the closing down of business of prominent and vocal Igbo leaders such as Orji Kalu and Jim Nwobodo (to name just a few) where an indication of that marginalization. I thought the harassment of governor Ngige and mayhem orchestrated by PDP in anambra state where an indication of that also. Hell, I even thought that the raid and sack on Okija shrine was an indication of the marginalisation and a further attempt to humiliate the Igbo. I confess that I had also thougt it likely that the use of Wabara and Osuji as skapegoat for his anti- corruption campaing, for doing what Obasanjo and others have been doing with impunity had a hint of the marginalisation. OK, i had also believed in other indicators such as the unfair distribution of senatorial and fed assembly seats based on a faked census figure, and also the unfair distrubution of Army, police, customs, fed. civil service, Supreme court judiciary etc. Previuos to today I had believed in many other indications too.
But all that is changed now forever Alchemist by your astute argument: The Igbo are not being marginalised because: 1.- The history of the ibos, is filled with violation of human rights, corruption, cannibalism, demon-worship and other primitive atrocities. 2.-Ibos are just as powerhungry, oil-money greedy and ever ready to kill all who come in their way like the rest of the tribes in Nigeria.
Your argument realy faces the issues and your points convinced me completely that the igbo are not being marginalized. Thank you.
Since the history of the Igbo is as full of demon-worship and other primitive atrocities as all the other tribes in Nigeria then it is of course not at all surprising that the Okija shrine in Igbo land would be humiliated while all other shrines in Yoruba land, Bini, awusa, Calabar , Ugep, etc remain sacrosanct.
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Hello and welcome to our room which do get heated at times. You addressed your post to Alchemist instead of Icheoku who if am not wrong you were meant to address. Do I smell a mistake or were you referring to something else?
Icheoku:
This thread could have been funnier had the crap been unreal. We're marginalized on every aspect of living as this thread highlighted. How a N55 million mistake overtook billions and trillions stolen by the combined thieves from northern and western nigeria beats me.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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I am sorry but therer was a post there by someone called alchemist after Icheokus own it was post number 1 mine was number 2 after the original post that starts the thread. But now that post from alchemist which i was replying to is gone. Is someone playing tricks on me?
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quote:...Is someone playing tricks on me...-Proud2b
You can bet your last dime on that one!
quote:Thank you...-Proud2b
No need to thank me!
It seems the "F" word is not welcomed on this board. This could be the reason why two of my posts containing the "F" word have been deleted. However, I've read a whole lot of other foul words on this board which are equally as obscene and vulgar as the "F" word. Besides, I've not even spelled out the word, just merely hinted at it. What is this? Do I smell an "unequal balance" here? Or is it so here that only Members with over a thousand posts are allowed to use foul language? How unfair is that?
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So why did you remove your post? You are no longer convinced? You should think before posting, not post and remove 2 minutes later.
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lol@Is someone playing tricks on me? - Proud2beBiafran.
You just got here and you're already creating funny ambience. Good job guy, but no I don't think anyone is playing "tricks" (lol) on you this thing happens all the time. I think what happened is that you confused this thread with another one and perhaps in your haste to reply, you posted on the wrong topic. Please double check some of the threads out there.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Where is Alchemist's post you are talking about. I did a directory search and found only two posts for that handle. Neither mentioned anything about Igbo marginalisation.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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There is no mistake as Alchemist confirms in his edited post above. the post was there, it was very coarse and vulgar against the Igbo and was probably deleted by the administrators, good job. For those who did not see the post, maybe Alchemist could repost in a more civilized manner. And contrary to your claim you did spell out the F word.
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quote:...Since the history of the Igbo is as full of demon-worship and other primitive atrocities as all the other tribes in Nigeria then it is of course not at all surprising that the Okija shrine in Igbo land would be humiliated while all other shrines in Yoruba land, Bini, awusa, Calabar , Ugep, etc remain sacrosanct....proud2b
You base your pro-marginalization argument on one stupid occult shrine? If the members of that satanic cult had concealed their evil activities properly, noone would have known about it. Besides, now that this shrine has been closed, what of the thousands of other satanic python-worshipping shrines all across iboland in particular and Nigeria in general? They're still fully operating, right? So quit whining about Okija shrine, or are you a member of that satanic cult?
quote:..And contrary to your claim you did spell out the F word...
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If I am a liar then the administrator of this site must be as well for deleting it.
And Alchemist, I am not baseing my pro marginalization argument on anything. I just said that you had convinced me by your sound reasons that the Igbo are not being marginalized. Did you not understand my post? It is you who keeps going on about marginalization, even when I have agreed with you. that sounds like an attempt at brainwashing. Or is it guilty concience? Why not repost all you said in your original post minus the vulgarities?
If however you could discern only one reason for a pro-marginalization argument from my first post, then you are either a master of selective reasoning or you need help.
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So you are smart enough to know what is irony but are too slow to pick more than one point for a pro-marginalisation argument from my post? That is selective reasoning. Thank you for making my point.
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Dude, I picked the Okija shrine argument because YOU mentioned it TWICE in your post. Thus it is clear that this Okija shrine cult must be really important to you. Dig?
quote: You base your pro-marginalization argument on one stupid occult shrine?- Alchemist
So if you are insisting that my post was ironical and that I have a pro-marginalization argument, then you must also see all the ironical points I made not just only the one you like. Why not reply to all if you have an argument of your own . Dig?
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I do not care one way or the other just don't bring me into your obfuscation and all will be fine and dandy. That is if you're smart to not let stupidity overrun whatever you want to share with the members. When people claim to have only signed on for the first time there is absolutely no need to immediately resort to attacks even when it’s totally uncalled for. I’ve weathered the storms here such that certain privileges may be extended to veterans who have taken unnecessary flaks, a privilege that should not apply to rookies until they learn how to stick to one handle. People, restrict your attack to the forumites and leave the Honorable Web Chief out of it.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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What's wrong, proud2b? Afraid of getting your post thoroughly scutinzed? As someone utilizing literary elements, you should know that apart from irony you also used the simple literary element of repetition. As you might be well aware, in short essays or short poems, EVERY word and literary element counts in order to get to the root of the issue. I have picked your repetitive argument about the occult shrine. So what? That doesn't mean that I can't deal with your other (IMO shallow) pro-marginalization arguments.
Dude, it's YOUR turn to reply to my take on your Okija shrine argument. Once you've done that, I'll deal with your "all bad things are in the land of the ibos - ibos are discriminated and exempt from nigerian business and nigerian politics - everyone in Nigeria is bad to us ibos" whinings.
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I dont understand what you mean by your take on the Okija shrine? You mean you want to know if I am a member there? Well if I am it is my business not yours as we are still under freedom to practise religion of your choice in Nigeria(at least for now). If I am a member there or not does nothing to add to or remove from the marginalization case so if you have any reply to my shallow points please go ahead without mincing words and without further ado.
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Dude, you get one last chance from me, hoping that you are not as daft as your last post indicates. Let me spell it out for you:
You brought forth six pro-marginalization points in your maiden post. In your last sentence of your maiden post you repeated one of the points (the Okija shrine). The raid on the Okija shrine does not prove any marginalization of ibos in Nigeria, because all over Nigeria, including in the land of the ibos, there are still THOUSANDS of other stupid satanic cults fully operating. Just because the dumb members of one useless cult didn't adhere to the laws of concealment and their cover was thus blown open, doesn't mean that all occult shrines in the land of the ibos have been raided. Only ONE (that's O.N.E., uno, une, eins) shrine was raided in the land of ibos because of carelessness of behalf of the cult members.
Suma sumarum: one out of your six pro-marginalization points has been busted (I'll deal with the other ones AFTER you've responded). Now, what's you reply to this? If you have nothing to reply to the busted Okija shrine point, then please do me a favour: XXXX XXX (self-censored)!
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Nothing is busted guy not so fast. I have somthing to reply. My point is that the okija incident is an attempt to humiliate the Igbo and that is an aspect of marginalisation.
quote: Just because the dumb members of one useless cult didn't adhere to the laws of concealment and their cover was thus blown open, doesn't mean that all occult shrines in the land of the ibos have been raided. Only ONE- Alchemist
When you say only one shrine in igbo land was desecrated, and hundreds are still left you seem to be missing something. Why did the British not spare costs in human life to be able to attack and destroy the Aro-Chukwu shrine early last century? They destroyed only this one all importanrt shrine leaving a hundred others, but had by destroying only that one shrine alone a political effect wich the destruction of 1000 lesser shrines could not achieve. That was the final step towards the colonisation of the Igbo. So Alchemist, one is enough to prove margenalisation of the Igbo when none was destroyed in other parts of the country
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(You know, dude, it really would make things easier if you could reply in readable and understandable english language with proper complete english sentences. I'll be so free and interprete your last section of your post to be an unsuccessful attempt trying to introduce confusion into the discussion, thereby deviating from your IMO weak points of argumentation. Thus I cannot reply anything to the last section of your post. Rewrite it in readable english and I'll reply.)
Let me thus reply to your first readable section.
Dude, get real! Come on! The website link which you've provided http://www.nigeriaholiday.com/osun/spots.html doesn't say nothing about no human sacrifice going on in the Osun shrine, does it? A shrine is nothing illegal, as long as you don't go around killing folks on alters. According to the http://www.nigeriaholiday.com/osun/spots.html website, the Osun shrine serves for this purpose: "...Oracles were consulted to solve the flood problem...". Now that's what I call a noble intention.
There you go! Nothing about no priest tearing out no beating heart out of the chest of a living human being, nothing about burying human beings alive as living sacrifices, nothing illegal here as it was at the Okija shrine. Dude, your "the-other-yoruba-shrines-are-being-spared" whining argument is busted. A shrine is nothing illegal or evil as such. It is what folks do in the shrines that makes them good, evil, or illegal. How come you didn't know or refused to acknowledge that?
Have a wikipedia read on the definition of a shrine:
quote:The website link which you've provided http://www.nigeriaholiday.com/osun/spots.html doesn't say nothing about no human sacrifice going on in the Osun shrine, does it? A shrine is nothing illegal, as long as you don't go around killing folks on alters. - Alchemist
If that is so then where does it say that the people at Okija where doing that? Where was it stated that the people in okija shrine did human sacrifice? Please enlighten me.
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Dude, you have not re-written the last section in readable english the way I asked you to!??!
I do hope you're not one of those day-dreamers who go about denying the obvious when the entire international press reports about human sacrifices, folks being buried alive, and other illegal activities going at the Okija shrine? When detailled information about illegal murderous activities at the Okija shrine are being reported in every european, asian, north and south american, african and what-have-you country, then only the criminals involved together with their partners-in-crime deny the obvious. Dude, I ain't telling you XXXX about "where was it stated that the people in okija shrine did human sacrifice", because you already know where that information came from: RIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH!
quote: There you go! Nothing about no priest tearing out no beating heart out of the chest of a living human being, nothing about burying human beings alive as living sacrifices, nothing illegal here-- Alchemist famous last words
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