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proud2b You have not replied to what was put before you, namely that the four links which you've provided as evidence about illegal activities going on at the yoruba shrine DO NOT contain any evidence about any illegal activities at the Osun shrine.
The shrine argument was your strongest argument about a supposedly marginalization against ibo people in Nigeria, simply because you repeated this same argument twice. When you were being challenged on this shrine argument, you mentioned the Osun shrine, claiming that at the Osun shrine illegal activities (just like at the Okija shrine) were going on. In substantiating your claim, you brought four links. None of these four links contained any information about illegal activities (ritual murders, human sacrifices, police investigation at the Osun shrine etc.). The last link your gave was a laugh! You foolishly brought an old text by a european writer from the year 1894 (that's eighteen ninety four). That link alone reveals your contempt and hatred towards your own neighbors.
Now, I have already in detail busted your four links, showing the reader that these four links which you've provided as evidence, do not contain any evidence about any illegal activity going on at the yoruba Osun shrine.
Like a real chicken-coward you then completely ignored my last post, and quickly provided a newspaper report where the people of Okija complain about being maltreated, about how the Okija shrine is really nothing evil.
Listen Dude, I believe you are slow to understand; therefore again (like I've done it before) I'll spell it out for you slow thinker to grasp:
You wrote in your maiden post that ibo people are being marginalized in Nigeria.
You then brought forth six points/examples to prove that ibo people are being marginalized in Nigeria.
You mentioned the point with the raid at the Okija shrine twice!
Because of this repetition, I decided to take you on your own grounds and start from the point which you mentioned twice, namely the raid at the Okija shrine.
My first and only reply to this is that the Okija shrine was raided because the Okija shrine members did not conceal their evil activities properly.
Your reply to this was that in other shrines in Nigeria the same illegal activities are going on, yet the nigerian authorities are not doing anything about it, only the ibo shrine was raided because, so you claim, ibo people are being marginalized in Nigeria.
You then went ahead and brought four links which supposedly contain evidence about illegal activities at other nigerian shrines.
I checked the links and found out that all four links do not contain ANY evidence of illegal activities in other nigerian shrines (my detailed post is there for all to read).
Your latest strategy now is retreat! Here's the begging of a coward:
quote:So please why not now come to more weighty matters than Okija shrine if you can?...proud2b
----> this cowardice tactic will not work!
You brought the Okija shrine argument to prove your claim of ibo people being marginalized in Nigeria, you repeated this argument twice, and thus I'm ready to take you on, starting from this point! I'm ever ready to address your other five points as well, but we are going to take this step-by-step, dude, you hear me?
We will remain with the Okija shrine argument, because you have not yet addressed it properly. There are three options for you now. Choose one:
1) Provide concrete substantial evidence whereby other occult shrines in Nigeria have been under police investigation for ritual killings/human sacrifice, or have been convicted by the court of law for ritual killings/human sacrifice. 2) Just take back that Okija shrine argument in your six-point list. 3) Shut your xxxxxx mouth!
A word about concrete substantial evidence: to substantiate something doesn't necessarily mean that you have to provide an Internet link. It could be but mustn't be. Any information you have, other than your tribalistic, biased anti-nigerian opinion, on the nigerian authorities cracking down an occult shrine somewhere in Nigeria, or on illegal activities in yoruba shrines will do.
Lastly, remember that my point still remains: Okija shrine was raided NOT because of anti-ibo sentiments or ibo marginalization, but because someone from the secret Okija shrine society broke the secret oath of concealment. The fact that the ibo shrine got busted doesn't prove any marginalization, but it proves that other secret occult societies have their members fully under control.
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You are repeating your vulgarities and adding nothing new, no content, only repetition. I have never discused with someone so crude and shallow.
quote:There are three options for you now. Choose one:
1) Provide concrete substantial evidence whereby other occult shrines in Nigeria have been under police investigation for ritual killings/human sacrifice, or have been convicted by the court of law for ritual killings/human sacrifice. 2) Just take back that Okija shrine argument in your six-point list. 3) Shut your xxxxxx mouth!--alchemist
I understand that you are too retarded to be able to think of more than 3 options at a time. But for your information ,I have a fouth option which is to simply ignore your rabid rantings, as I can see you are far ,far, beneath my standard. It is not possible to discuss with you in a civillized tone as you lack home training and common ethics. there is actually no practical sense in a discussion with you as you are beyond help. Please until you learn to discuss in a constructive, open, civillizen, mature and unbiased manner, you may have to be discusing with yourself. I can see you have an inferiority complex, that is why you want to prove something to yourself. Please seek proffesional psychiatric help urgently. Until then go to hell with your 3 options. I tell you sincerely that if you where before me personaly you would not have the guts to talk to me in that derogatory tone as you are a nobody. So rant and rave on the internet you short man because it is only there that you can. Nonentity. Because I even manage talk to you I go begin suffer insult? God punish you.
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Alchemist, you are begining to sound like empty vessel just like your alter ego Daud. Listen to yourself you juvenile
quote:We will remain with the Okija shrine argument, because you have not yet addressed it properly. There are three options for you now. Choose one:
1) Provide concrete substantial evidence whereby other occult shrines in Nigeria have been under police investigation for ritual killings/human sacrifice, or have been convicted by the court of law for ritual killings/human sacrifice. 2) Just take back that Okija shrine argument in your six-point list. 3) Shut your xxxxxx mouth!
Surely even one as limited as you must understand that you have just proved Proud2beBiafran`s point. Your option number one says "1) Provide concrete substantial evidence whereby other occult shrines in Nigeria have been under police investigation for ritual killings/human sacrifice, or have been convicted by the court of law for ritual killings/human sacrifice." This is exactly what Proud2be is telling you that there has been no such police investigation on other occult shrines in Nigeria for similar ritual killings although we all know they happen elswhere , thereby constituting proof that the Igbo are being used as scape goat, humiliated, oppressed and marginalised. Duh. Ouch . Thank you Alchemist.
It is you who is supposed to provide the evidence you are asking for to prove your case dimwit.
quote:...Please until you learn to discuss in a constructive, open, civillizen, mature and unbiased manner, you may have to be discusing with yourself...proud2b
Have you forgotten, that you started this conversation? Have you forgotten that you addressed your maiden post to me? Have you? I bet you have! I've stated elsewhere, that what I write is my opinion, and all those who don't like why I write should xXXxx!
You are a coward hiding deep in a dark smelly cave of tribalism, lack of knowledge and ignorance. It's prejudiced folks like yourself who are the direct and indirect cause of violent tribal and racial uprisings.
quote:Because I even manage talk to you I go begin suffer insult? God punish you...proud2b
Can I offer you a Kleenex free of charge? Mommy's little boy, unable to face opposition. Have you drank your milk today?
quote: But for your information ,I have a fouth option which is to simply ignore your rabid rantings, as I can see you are far ,far, beneath my standard. - Proud2beBiafran
Exercise that IGNORE option now brother and indeed you’re way too better than the tout that dribbles his junk from Germany. This fool never seem to appreciate the level of tolerance of the Webmaster who always allow enough time to elapse before othniel is again removed from the midst of people who’re sincerely searching for alternative to the dark country of nigeria. The same ant tried to knock our heads together with his failed attempt to instigate a misunderstanding between two brothers, which I knew was gonna be wisely IGNORED. Jidikwe nke iji Ochi.
quote:This is exactly what Proud2be is telling you that there has been no such police investigation on other occult shrines in Nigeria for similar ritual killings although we all know they happen elswhere , thereby constituting proof that the Igbo are being used as scape goat, humiliated, oppressed and marginalised. - Ochiwar
Hello! Well said! How hard is it if the subject is not a mental midget to discern this simple deduction?
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quote:...people who’re sincerely searching for alternative to the dark country of nigeria...Mebiafran
Alternative? Your xxx alternative of coming "out of the cold into the fire"? So, you want the good people of nigeria to forsake Nigeria to enter into "your alternative" where self-centered egomaniacs like yourself will tyrannize their lives in the name of "your alternative"?
In addressing me, the Grand Alchemist, your opposition, you have not demonstrated any difference from a typical Nigerian. Your reaction to my opposition is not different in any way from the reaction of all nigerian dictatorial goverments. Why is that so? Because you are a Nigerian. You can't deny the fact!
Clean a pig, wash it, bathe it, perfume it, clothe it - at the end of the day the pig will run away into the forest to find its true home: a dirty stinking swamp! There the pig will wash itself dirty from all the cleaning it has received. Thus it is with folks like you and your kind. You can't deny your God-given destiny which is to be a Nigerian for the rest of your life!
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Junks would onwardly be IGNORED!!!!! Intoto! Signed MeBiafran MM
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How do you know that a person is intellectualy so far below average that it becomes impossible to have a reasonable discussion with him? When, as manifestly evident in Alchemist posts, his arguments are based on the following; Appeal to Emotion (argumentum ad populum)
In a more general fashion, the appeal to emotion relies upon emotively charged language to arouse strong feelings that may lead an audience to accept its conclusion:
* As all clear-thinking residents of our fine state have already realized, the Governor's plan for financing public education is nothing but the bloody-fanged wolf of socialism cleverly disguised in the harmless sheep's clothing of concern for children. * Therefore, the Governor's plan is bad public policy.
The problem here is that although the flowery language of the premise might arouse strong feelings in many members of its intended audience, the widespread occurrence of those feelings has nothing to do with the truth of the conclusion.
Appeal to Ignorance (argumentum ad ignoratiam)
An appeal to ignorance proposes that we accept the truth of a proposition unless an opponent can prove otherwise. Thus, for example:
* No one has conclusively proven that there is no intelligent life on the moons of Jupiter. * Therefore, there is intelligent life on the moons of Jupiter.
But, of course, the absence of evidence against a proposition is not enough to secure its truth. What we don't know could nevertheless be so.
Irrelevant Conclusion (ignoratio elenchi)
The fallacy of the irrelevant conclusion tries to establish the truth of a proposition by offering an argument that actually provides support for an entirely different conclusion.
* All children should have ample attention from their parents. * Parents who work full-time cannot give ample attention to their children. * Therefore, mothers should not work full-time.
Here the premises might support some conclusion about working parents generally, but do not secure the truth of a conclusion focussed on women alone and not on men. Although clearly fallacious, this procedure may succeed in distracting its audience from the point that is really at issue.
Begging the Question (petitio principii)
Begging the question is the fallacy of using the conclusion of an argument as one of the premises offered in its own support. Although this often happens in an implicit or disguised fashion, an explicit version would look like this:
* All dogs are mammals. * All mammals have hair. * Since animals with hair bear live young, dogs bear live young. * But all animals that bear live young are mammals. * Therefore, all dogs are mammals.
Unlike the other fallacies we've considered, begging the question involves an argument (or chain of arguments) that is formally valid: if its premises (including the first) are true, then the conclusion must be true. The problem is that this valid argument doesn't really provide support for the truth its conclusion; we can't use it unless we have already granted that.
Complex Question
The fallacy of complex question presupposes the truth of its own conclusion by including it implicitly in the statement of the issue to be considered:
* Have you tried to stop watching too much television? * If so, then you admit that you do watch too much television. * If not, then you must still be watching too much television. * Therefore, you watch too much television.
In a somewhat more subtle fashion, this involves the same difficulty as the previous fallacy. We would not willingly agree to the first premise unless we already accepted the truth of the conclusion that the argument is supposed to prove.
These are the cheap tricks that make up the substance of Alchemist/Daud/Othniel`s posts. Therefore there is no point wasting valuable and precious time on the mediocre and microcephalus Alchemist.
Only a Fool would mistake Politeness with cowardice:
quote: Your latest strategy now is retreat! Here's the begging of a coward:
quote:So please why not now come to more weighty matters than Okija shrine if you can?...proud2b
----> this cowardice tactic will not work!-- Rude and Juvenile Alchemist
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I bet you 1000€ (one thousand euro) cash that you copied and pasted this piece of crap from somewhere. Can you swear on the life of somebody dear to you that you wrote this xxxx piece of xxxx on your own, that you are the author of this text?
The only reason why you go to this length trying to find a way to discredit me, is because you have seen the potent substance of truth in my writings, but you are too scared to acknowledge it, knowing fully well that if you should do so, the house elefants mebiafran & co would surely trample upon you. Do I smell the pungent stench of the coward spirit here?
quote: I bet you 1000€ (one thousand euro) cash that you copied and pasted this piece of crap from somewhere. Can you swear on the life of somebody dear to you that you wrote this xxxx piece of xxxx on your own, that you are the author of this text?--Alchemist,Appeal to Emotion (argumentum ad populum)
quote: The only reason why you go to this length trying to find a way to discredit me, is because you have seen the potent substance of truth in my writings, but you are too scared to acknowledge it, knowing fully well that if you should do so, the house elefants mebiafran & co would surely trample upon you. Do I smell the pungent stench of the coward spirit here?-Alchemist,Irrelevant Conclusion (ignoratio elenchi), False Cause
He has also added a new one in his last paragraph: False Cause
The fallacy of false cause infers the presence of a causal connection simply because events appear to occur in correlation or (in the post hoc, ergo propter hoc variety) temporal succession.
* The moon was full on Thursday evening. * On Friday morning I overslept. * Therefore, the full moon caused me to oversleep.
* The only reason why you go to this length trying to find a way to discredit me, is because *you have seen the potent substance of truth in my writings, but you are too scared to acknowledge it *because if you should do so, the house elefants mebiafran & co would surely trample upon you.- Philosophy according to Mugu Alchemist
To read up on these and more to improve your logic (for beginners) go to www.philosophypages.com
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I see exactly what you mean, same thing you saw!! The house roach is acting out his natural role as nuisance. The superior display of higher intelligence captivated the German fool, alchemist so much so that he did what comes naturally to an intellectually deprived scoundrel; stutter after the lecture on philosophy 101 overwhelmed his emotional track. It is quite obvious to identify and separate the Isi ayu from one who has command and knowledge of what he's writing after reading from the immediate posts above. Just like one of our brothers Latinized and Greeknized this wayward chap whose only reason for coming here is free Igbo re-education without uttering the simplest word (THANKS) there is. Our brother again this morning started early lecturing on the common belief in PHILOSOPHY. You did expect the roach to just shut-up and appreciate the free lecture instead he did what comes easy in his native country of NIGERIA, fruitless attempt to deny credit to someone who's as you can see more erudite and level headed than the house pigeon. First he was taught a lesson in Greek then Latin and now Philosophy! Yamhead when and how long before you get it, that you’re dabbling with men with superior ability than you’ll ever acquire?
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quote:Okebukola Advises Plateau on Varsity Devt From Funmi Peter-Omale in Jos, 05.06.2005
Executive Secretary of the National Universities Co-mmission, Professor Peter Okebukola, has charged the Plateau State government to make use of the commission’s technical and professional advice, to develop the Plateau State University. Okebukola said if properly funded and managed, the university has the capacity of becoming one of the greatest and best state-owned universities in the countries.
Okebukola said these while presenting a certificate of recognition to the Palteau State Governor, Joshua Dariye, on behalf of the university.
He said the state merited the certificate, having met all necessary and statutory requirements for the establishment of a state university.
According to him, “academic programmes are to run in three phases; phase one has Schools of Sciences and Foundation Studies, Agricultural Sciences and Management Sciences.
“The second phase include Schools of Engineering, Law, Education, Post Graduate and Centre for Industrial Studies; while the third phase include Schools of Medical Sciences, Veterinary Medicine, Arts and Social Sciences.” Chief Dariye assured that his government would nurture and adequately fund the university.
He however solicited the assistance of the commission to include the university in this year’s budget.
This Yoruba Prof. Peter Okebukola, who was also implicated in the 55 million naira bribe saga and in fact who raised 10 or 20 million of the said bribe is still working and smiling all the way to the bank while his Igbo colleagues, Osuji and Njuko were embarrassed out of office. Please do not say the fight to quench corruption is selective because that would upset the nigerian ‘lords’ of BNW, the ones that can’t distinguish between their left finger and their nose whose other name is liar. To them obasanjo’s corrupted regime and his hoax of fighting something he invented is a sign of good thing and affirmation in their tired “one nigeria” slogan. Shouldn’t this Yoruba Professor receive equal treatment to that meted to Osuji and co? Where is the equity in all these nonsense yet when I can’t take anymore of the bull and let my feelings be known you have a couple of pickpockets like alchemist screaming holy Mary. Does this arrant waste not know what equity/fairness/arbitrary/across board etc mean? Is this not what all the Igbo writers has been complaining about his country, nigeria he parochially loves so much?
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Welcome to BNW. One of the highest honors you will ever receive in these parts is to be accused of being Othniel, or to be told that you are Daud. Both have happened to you. When they tell you you are Daud, there is usually nothing to worry about. But, when they call you Othniel, you know the plot to eliminate you has started; it is the kiss of death!
It is actually childish and laughable. But, that is what happens when you defeat the likes of HeBiafran and his errand boy, ochiwar, in a debate.
Olumide:
I had to make the post. On the one hand, your point has been proved; this place is junk when left to HeBiafran and his ilk. On the other hand, it is worth it to keep giving "free education" to these boys (apologies to Fumi). You just never know. They may learn a thing or two, yet.
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Daud thanks for welcoming me. So, what's all this to-be-accused-of-being-Othniel-or-Daud stuff? Is that some african BS code?
From what I've seen and read in this forum, folks around here don't really care much about reality. They seem to live in a strange fantasy world of their own. That's why they are doomed to remain as they are: perpetually backwards!
Until Idi Amin Daud tells us what role his mohammed the pedophile played in defiling a 9yr old little girl, I suggest that he may sneak back to his awusa hole. How is it that a fifty four year old mohammed was able to have forced sexual intercourse with Aisha yet this awusa moron continue to worship an idol? The more crap this awusa boy writes the more revelation about his mohammed readers would know. Have all you worthless nigerians ask why you keep coming back to a place your low mental state ‘proved’ to be “junk?” Maybe not that junk after all? Think little boy, think!
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quote:...what role his mohammed the pedophile played in defiling a 9yr old little girl...Mebiafran
Some serious allegations here. Of course, to ask you to substantiate what you've written would mean for you to deactivate your XXXX "ignore button", right?
Meanwhile, Mebiafran, you are a bona fide Nigerian yourself. You grew in Nigeria, attended school in Nigeria, spent the larger part of your life in Nigeria (at least so I suppose). Why then do you call yourself worthless?
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One does not need to be a prophet to figure out Alchemist/Dauds moves well in advance as he has repeated the same cheap tricks over and over again in this forum.
quote: Multiple personalities certainly as he has undergone many metarmorphosis on this forum. When he is humiliated as one handle he dumps it and changes to another. The current one "Alchemist" will soon be shed after this humiliation here and the humiliation from a rookie on the obj joke thread. Maybe he will go back to using Daud or some other of his old handles that have "cooled."-Ochiwar, 05.05.05
It has come to pass. Daud has not posted since he was humiliated and it was exactly then that Alchemist took over from where Daud stoped. Now alchemist has been humiliated, he is gone and Daud is back. Who do you really think you are fooling Daud? Your DNA signature is all over the Alchemist handle. Do you think you are dealing with children here?
quote:Igbo coward Ochiwar wrote:--Daud
quote: Your latest strategy now is retreat! Here's the begging of a coward:-Alchemist
quote:your Igbo nation a nation of cowards,--Daud
quote: You are a coward hiding deep in a dark smelly cave of tribalism,--Alchemist
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The only nation of 40-million people that stays in any country against its will is a nation of 40-million cowards. --Daud
quote: this cowardice tactic will not work!--Alchemist
Tell me is this not all eminating from the same twisted source. Who is fooling who on this forum? Dear Alchemist/Daud, please keep sending and replying posts to yourself. That goes a long way to prove that you have deep rooted psychological problem. Because of your insultive and crude attitude you are being ignored on this forum. Insted of accepting that or changing for the better you have now resorted to posting to yourself. You are in a real Dr. Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde complex and the sooner you seek medical help the better for you. A word is enough for the wise.
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Daud have you read the same BS XXXX crap I'm reading here from the last post of Ochiwar? Strange, isn't it?
I never thought that the ibos were traumatised like this. Their suffering in Nigeria must have severely affected them in their innermost spirit. What a pity!
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