There used to be a time when BNW was known for the high power intellectuals who wrote on this board. Alas! those great minds have taken flight, chased away or into ROM by the rude Igbo/Biafran cyber warlords such as HeBiaFreak, Ochiwarlord, etc. Now that the pens of those intellectuals have gone silent, where are the rude mouths who drove them into ROM? This board is starting to look like a mere shadow of its former self.
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Can you give us some names(handles) of those superb high flying intellectuals so that we may know who we are supposed to be missing.
As for rudeness, I don't see you criticizing Fumi Onodipe's last outburst, which was totally uncalled for, and quite tiresome. Also I have read much of the archives of BNW and I do not see any great elevation of rude behavior since BNW's inception. People here have always said the thing that was on their minds, and done so many times in quite rude fashion. The archives are there; you can read them for your self. Personally I think your statement is more self-serving than a reflection of actual fact...and how can you be the judge of why some handles go into ROM. BNW doesn't have to defend itself against opinions like yours which I think quite in the minority.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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quote: ...cyber warlords such as..., Ochiwar...-Daud
Thanks for the recognition. I can see confirmed that my missiles are dead on target and destructive in their effect, leaving survivors with lasting psychological trauma.
___________________ Biafra is inevitable.Illegitimis nil carborundum. Posts: 760 | From: europe | Registered: Jan 2005
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You remind me of a story I read about those Biafrans who as late as December 1969 / January 1970 continued to insist that Biafra was winning the war and Ojukwu was about to march on Lagos. Wake up and smell the coffee man.
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Please fella, don't be fooled, these nigerian arabists, the likes of idi amin daud, are bad news for civilization. Only their total banishment from western world will do. You see all manners of jihadists crawling on their limbs to westernized countries unappreciatively only to turn around to create mayhem. Why it's that?
After ignoring the bastard they call idi amin daud for awhile, now is the time to let folks remember that he’s another reflection of how idiotic his awusa folks are. During the time the same “high power intellectuals, those great minds” were here, this awusa boy recklessly maligned them. Today the shout of wolf where none exists is echoed by him after chasing them into ROM. Of course we’re not deterred by the empty noise of this cheap monkey looking crook. He is an idiot that never writes anything meaningful about the sad state of his nigeria that was made possible by his northern terror masterminds. He should answer Greg’s question; where was him when Fumi recently let out one of her bitchy scribbles about my person? The bigger question is, if BNW has become as banal as this idiot would wish, why is the fool still here?
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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.... now is the time to let folks remember that he’s another reflection of how idiotic his awusa folks are. During the time the same “high power intellectuals, those great minds” were here,
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Once again idi amin daud tried but failed yet again to twist my words. His “high power intellectuals, those great minds,” to me means SO-CALLED.
".... now is the time to let folks remember that he’s another reflection of how idiotic his awusa folks are. During the time the same “high power intellectuals, those great minds” were here,...this awusa boy (idi daud) recklessly maligned them."
This looks more like it boy.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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If you put the French, british, German, Italian, all together to build a "new nation", even with common western culture and civilization, they too will "attack, attack, attack" one another without love. In the case of nigeria, the british have mixed oil and water hausa/fulani islamists, with their feudalism and stone-age backwardness masked as sharia and islamic conservatism; the yoroba, a loud-mouth, prostrating culture that enjoys to play "shofisticated" or timid slave-boy diplomacy with western economic supemacists; the liberal Igbo/Biafrans, who just want to make things, build businesses and make money.
Clearly, this spiteful exercise in british imperial and economic interest has not worked for Africans; it has continued to suck too much of Igbo/Biafran energy that is needed for economic development of Africa. It will never work. How can any one expect prosperity in nigeria when mallams and such crude characters as olusegun obasanjo are given the power to dictate economic policy for ndiIgbo and a chunk of African population in BiafraNigeria? I think we have all seen the best of yoroba/hausa economic rocket scientists in action since 1970. They are very "shofisticated" at taking policy orders from their masters in western capitals.
The seperation must occur first before African economic competitiveness can be written off. Why is this so difficult to see?
___________________ achieve Biafra and show the difference Posts: 642 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Nov 2002
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AMADI O, We all can do without your empty boasts of Igbo mythology. PLEASE REFER ... Life's Lessons
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There's nothing empty or boastful about what I have said, which is that after a careful performance review of the records of yoroba/hausa managers of nigeria since 1970, the only correct conclusion is that these people are either dumb or they have no ideas what it takes to compete and win in a global economy, or how to build a growing economy that can support improved standard of living for the people.
Just keep an open mind while we review the following: In the '50s/'60s under colonial rule, the nigerian economy was growing at a respectable rate; citizens were reasonably confident of the future and of their own personal perspects. But a group of Africans led by Zik decided to rid themselves of colonial rule. They kicked out the british to restore self rule. Before they left, the british installed a pliable hausa/fulani man to run nigerian politics, but for the most part, the management and administration of the economy was in the hands of the Igbo. No problem. The Igbo imposed meritocracy on the system; it was efficient. Individuals were left alone to compete for business anywhere without interferance. Most of the basic needs of the citizen were met; the economy prospered. Streets were kept clean, water supply was growing to match the growing population; Igbo engineers made sure ECN supplied uninterrupted power to industry and homes; the trains ran and ran on time; the road network was expanding; the standard of education was among the highest in the world; people wanted to come to Nigeria to do business.
These things did not happen because those at the top hid behind a cowardly pretence of conducting sophisticated diplomacy with economic supremacists in the West to sign away Biafran oil wealth as a way to stay in power and dictate to the Igbo. They happened because the management at the top level was courageous and culturally disposed to compete with any one, while discounting the gimmicks of the western financiers and their cut-throat lending policies. They also paid more attention to building a local economy with the abundant local input. Contrast that with what the yoroba/hausa managers of today have done with the economy since 1970 and their shameless deference to their masters in western capital.
Still bent on overthrowing competition and meritocracy, the hausa/fulani got jealous of Igbo education and know-how and wanted a short-cut to position of power to impose their culture of feudalism, oligarchy and lack of respect for individual responsibility. Instead of competing with the Igbo on education and skills acquisitions - the major differentiators and ingredients of personal improvement that have served any culture well - the haisa/fulani elected, with support from britain and the yoroba, to outrightly overthrow competition and impose feudalism and a culture of sharia. Now they have successfully dislodged the merit system that helped create a growing economy; in place today in BiafraNigeria since 1970 is the yoroba/hausa system of running the govenment and doing business, which is based on their cultures and way of life - their idea of how a country is run. How else can you explain what is happening? You have seen the substance of their management in action since the war was suspended. My question to you is are you proud of what they have done?
Remember that when Northern United States was in total control of US government and the economy during the years following the Civil War, at least their own region of the country was industrializing. Other than shamelessly stealing Biafran oil wealth at the individual level, can you say that the yoroba/hausa managers of nigeria have created a growing economy even in their own regions of the country, if you discount the islands of growth in the towns of Lagos and Abuja, made possible by oil wealth from Biafra? Won't you then agree that these people are either dumb or have no idea what they're doing?
Where is the "emply boasts" in what I have said?
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What we have going on on this board is the problem of lazy new members, who fail to read the archive or to show any scholarship. They think that all they have to do is say they are Igbo, better yet Biafran, and all will be well.
In that regard, the only thing worse than the character named HeBiafreak is the lunatic named Ochiwarlord. I truly believe that Ochiwarlord neither reads nor understands the things he claims to have read.
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quote: In that regard, the only thing worse than the character named HeBiafreak is the lunatic named Ochiwarlord. - idi amin daud
lololol. Do you know what the Yoruba call what you said about Ochi, idi amin? IRO! You know he’s a powerful writer only your tribal hate does not allow you to see that far.
I guess your whine was about the absence of the people that mistakenly harped on your wobbly wagon in the past but today MIA after seeing the light? Those are the ones you’re crying for their return, but I got news for you. They now know and understand what time it is, that all every decent being you have disparaged wants is full democratic values that will trickle down to the remotest areas and smallest of people. BTW: I see you no longer embark on your elementary quest to call people to their simple mistakes due to my expose of the grammar flaws that abound in yours too.
Other than these observations, I did find your reference to me here amusing. I laughed to it.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Your claim of a past high power intellectualism is this forum is ambiguous and fraudulent. Your sheer dislike of MeBiafra and Ochiwar is manifested, described and quite established by your intentional misquotation of their individual handle names and mischievous interpretations of intentions which has to be taken as the prove to total turn around from your original concepts and as ill will to the entire board membership and it's management. More on, an open practical attempt to bring this forum to ridicule with false claims that lacks factual substantiation; a dangerous attribute that has unbecoming characteristic change on your part as an active participator.
The hallmark of intellectualism is truth, the strangulation of truth marks the beginning of mediocriocy. My judgement is that this board is fairing better than your absurd claims.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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I've been trying to listen objectively to your recurring complaints. As for your battles with MeBiafran and Ochiwar, those are beyond my right to comment, but as for myself, I'll admit to going from what Dave once described as "thinly veiled insults" to brazen ones, especially with particular forumites, as O. Williams, you, and others. I won't say that such an escalation of mean words was unilaterally started by me(you and others of your opinion are also at fault), but rather I think was begun with tongue-in-cheek humour but ended in offense. No matter what our political differences are, or what our exchanges have been, I will try to satisfy you with what I think is your desire to return to some form of gentlemanly decorum devoid of rancour. I will still unequivocably state my opinions(which I already know are diametrically opposed to yours), but try and refrain from unneccessary excess. And though I disagree with almost everything you have posted, I think you honestly believe the garbage you write( that wasn't too bad, was it?). So I'm willing to at least listen to what you say so as to make sense of it if that is at all possible, and if you will agree, we can return to a time when our exchanges were less scathing and rarely personal(except of course for a little humour, judiciouly applied), nothwithstanding strong condemnations by me of groups in general and Muslims in particular. Agreed?
Also, Daud, before you completely condemn the so-called "rude mouths," of which I consider myself to be one, to a certain extent, consider the turn of events as it concerns Igbos since the beginning of this year, as in the Ojukwu/APGA crisis, the Anambra coup attempt, the SNC, Obasanjo's confab, resource control, the Biafran footballers, and now the Apo killings. Even the writings of people like Ednut, who has not been known to be pro-Biafran, have expressed exasperation and dismay at how awful things are for Igbo people in Nigeria. How much more then the anger of people like Ochiwar and Mebiafran(and myself). Yes, Mallam, I think Igbo tempers are at a boiling point these days, especially in the face of comments from those who make light of their afflictions and cast aspersions on them as they struggle to be free. Such persons or groups should expect angry words.
As for this thread, I am sorely dissapointed that you started it, because it implies that everyone still here is some sort of a dunce. I take it that this was your intent, an indictment and condemnation of your fellow advocates which I think is unfair. However I also think you wrote it out of frustration, hence my careful attention to what you are trying to say, and my sincere proposal that our exchanges be less offensive, at least from a personal point of view, mine still being generally offensive to anything and everything that is anti-Igbo. You see, we can still remain civil, even if you are a jihadist, so long as we don't fly on the same plane, or work in the same building.
BTW, where is Zuhir and Adekunle? Are they part of the missing intelligentsia? What I said about our exchanges goes for them as well, and equally for O. Williams. Also I hope BNW's intelligentsia didn't take the same flight as Zuhir.
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I think it was this thread that brought back some of the top notch intellects that I spoke about. Thanks for reminding me of this thread and its rehabilitative work.
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