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Reports on Nightline tonight showed that George Bush has been dragging his feet when it comes to helping the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Many of the people trapped in the hurricane are Blacks and other minorities who could not escape the hurricane. Black leaders are openly describing as racist the slow to no response and the efforts to portray black victims of the hurricane as looters.
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Daud,

How are you going to help the nigerians that might be caught up in that unfortunate situation?

Umuigbo, how are you guys going to help your fellow Igbos that might be in New Orleans? Are you going to give them shelter in your house or help them find an apartment if the relocate to your city? Is there any way that this messageboard can be used to offer help to those Igbos that need thier brother this time? Is ICAN, WIC, Imo/Abia associations, Enugu Association, Asaba Associations, Rivers Associations, Anambra State Association, Ebonyi State Association, and the rest of the Igbo and Biafran Associations doing anything to help out sons and daughter that Katrina displaced?

TGIF. AUDI.

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When tragedies like this struck, it's the poor and minorities that suffers and feel the pain.

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Ednut:

I don't think there are any Nigerians who did not heed the warning to leave New Orleans. I don't want to give money for New Orleans victims of the hurricane only for your Biafran brothers to use the money for their Biafra of the mind.

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Folks

Please think about what Ednut has written, how can we help Ndigbo affected by Katrina ? Is there any group out there taking lead of this ? I will contact the ICIO (international coalition of Igbo organizations)people to see if they are making any attempts at helping our people in New Orleans.

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While at it, Biafra, didn't u use to be a New Orleans resident? How about your baby mamas in N.O. and the babies? Have you relocated them yet to LA?

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I used to live in Baton Rouge, I have been in contact with friends over there, fortunately they are safe.

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On KATRINA: Black people or the socalled black leaders should stop injecting racism on what happened in New Orleans. George W is a good man. This is not about racism but govenment's slow response to the need and suffering of the people. If George Bush is to be blamed then blame him as the head of the government but not as a racist. Black people should stop this race game, enough is enough. It is true that white people encouraged this burden on themselves through their act and behavior; I would think that by now, black people should know when to cry racism and when not to. This is not the time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Waypoint1Biafra:
On KATRINA: Black people or the socalled black leaders should stop injecting racism on what happened in New Orleans. George W is a good man. This is not about racism but govenment's slow response to the need and suffering of the people. If George Bush is to be blamed then blame him as the head of the government but not as a racist. Black people should stop this race game, enough is enough. It is true that white people encouraged this burden on themselves through their act and behavior; I would think that by now, black people should know when to cry racism and when not to. This is not the time.

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Waypoint1Biafra I hope you are not refering to Kanye West as part of the black leadership in America...lol

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Kenya West, who is he?.
I don't not normally respond to questions from fellow forumites, I will make an exception because you were civil. But next time ask the questions and respond to it.
Anyhow, the cry for racism against GW on Katrian was squared off on Fox television between Juan Williams and a church Preacher who claimed racism from katrina to GW. Silly!! silly!! silly!! and naughty!!naughty!! naughty!!. Copy that.

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Waypoint1Biafra wrote:

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Anyhow, the cry for racism against GW on Katrian was squared off on Fox television between Juan Williams and a church Preacher who claimed racism from katrina to GW.
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It is true that white people encouraged this burden on themselves through their act and behavior; I would think that by now, black people should know when to cry racism and when not to.
Waypoint, this is how I see the issue you are speaking of. I don't totally disagree with you, just partly. I have at one time also felt the way you seem to feel today about blacks crying racism. Obviously I have since undergone some self-revisioning.

I didn't see this debate(if you can call it so) but whether the preacher was wrong or not, he was simply following the lead of African-Americans who a half of a century ago adopted the tactics of "confrontational politics." Leveling charges of racism may seem embarassingly tiresome to many, but after enduring unquestionable racism for 400 years in this country, I think each A-A has the right to invoke it as often as he likes, whatever the occassion, no matter whose sensibilities are offended. After all, those themselves, or their families, who did not suffer generational deprivation as a result of the practice of human slavery, have little or no moral authority to decide when, or when not, to cry racism just because it embarasses them to hear other blacks do so. But I am sure each black person in America will find sooner or later that racism thrives here like fungus in a medium. It may well be very much eradicated from the mundane public affairs in general, but it is rife in private; and as we all know, public officials are no more than private individuals. And because of this, great and costly political decisions are almost always affected by it.

I think one has to have lived here for many years to appreciate the delicate and refined nature of the racism in America. It is no more overt as it once was, but rather hidden and stealthy. One can identify it only by reading the "fine print," as it were. I don't think anyone will disagree that race played a big part in G.W. Bush's first election, and such matters reached as high as the Supreme Court, the Chief Justice of which, Willy Rhenquist used to administer literacy tests to blacks outside polling places in his early days in politics ,as a means of disqualifying them from voting... And just as leopards don't change their spots, so also cannot this man or others change his or their prejudices. But this is just one example of hidden institutional race-based politics. There are zillions of other examples of the same sort of sneaky racism in American history both recent and remote. Many A-A's really are experts at seeing through these political smokes and mirrors, and not allowing those who rest in it to have a respite. They have a saying here that goes like this..." I might have been born at night, but not last night." In other words, I think A-A's are not very generous in giving credit to non-minority politicians; and I also think it is wise on their part not to do so.

As for Katrina, G. W., and the preacher, it sounds like a joke, and would be funny, if it were not for the suffering people involved. I'm not agreeing with what the preacher said, but whether my readers agree with me or not, the A-A community needs people like this preacher, and others. People like Al Sharpton and this preacher are like pit-bull watchdogs. I personally dissaprove of them, but they serve a purpose. You see, it may only be the mailman at the door but the dogs bark like crazy, drawing everyones' attention to the situation. Yes, the mailman(in this case, G.W.) is made uncomfortable, but everyone else in the house feels a sense of security because of the barking dogs. What the preacher said may be a little nonsensical, but if you imagine him simply as a barking dog, you will feel more comfortable about the whole situation. This same principal could and ought to be used in Nigeria to keep politicians either off-balance or on their toes. But it takes guts to do that, even in America, but especially in Nigeria. Gani Fawehinmi does this very same thing, that is, engaging in confrontational politics, but of course he really does have legitimate grievances, unlike this preacher, it would seem.

Bush may not and probably is not trying to be racist in this situation, but he can't escape who he is, his social attitudes, private prejudices and so on. I don't mind him being put on the hotseat. He has no love lost for mainstream A-As anyhow. Having him respond to accusations protects my interests even if he is innocent, and no matter how others may be embarassed by it.

[ September 13, 2005, 04:15 AM: Message edited by: Greg ]

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Waypoint1Biafra I hope you are not refering to Kanye West as part of the black leadership in America. --Obodo5000
Obodo5000,

I'm least happy with the ranks of black leadership in America. In the past, our best leaders were routinely assassinated or jailed on false charges. Those we have now leave a lot to be desired, but whatever their tactics, or strategy(if any), they can speak with one voice, and are fearless in so doing. That means a lot in the world of politics.

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NEW ORLEANS: 40 people, mostly whites and in a town mostly whites were found dead in a nursing home. The nursing home operators declined warning by the government to move the elderly out of the home before Katrina struck. Racism?

FLIP THE COIN .
NEW ORLEANS: 40 people, mostly blacks and in a town mostly blacks were found dead in a nursing home. The nursing home operators, declined warning by the government to move the elderly out of the home before Katrina struck...Racism?

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Waypoint1Biafra:

You make me sick to my stomach. Seriously!

agbaramaga o!

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Facts: Gw. Bush has spent more than any Democrat and Nixon combined in poverty, yet he has been accused of insensitive to the minority group.


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You must be living on another planet. GW is a not only insensitive to the plight of of the miniority, he point blankly (which i like him for) don't give a damn about the poor and he does not hide it.

GW is one of the luckiest bastard that ever lived like the current Supreme Court CJ nominee.

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...not bad, coming from a disgruntled and undersirable Alien.

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Babbaboyz,

You wrote:

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GW is a not only insensitive to the plight of of the miniority, he point blankly (which i like him for) don't give a damn about the poor and he does not hide it.
Are you saying you like GW for his honesty? or that you don't care about the poor either? Inquiring minds want to know.

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I can't believe that some body in this forum could be defending George Bush, thats what the republicans are made of. A republican congress man from new orleans was quoted as saying that God has finally clean up new orleans for them that is one of the most racist statement i've ever heard in my life.
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