quote:Nwa Aro commands large followership in my kingdom, Germany, and at home because people live from my sweat.
First let me tell you that I don't think anyone in his right mind could be jealous of Nwa Aro, certainly not me. True, I'm not gifted enough to be a Field Marshall for Nd'Igbo like yourself, and I don't own an expanding factory like you do.
Moreover I haven't been fortunate enough to come into a kingdom lately and therefore do not command a large followership as Nwa Aro does.
Your Grace, had I known these things before I would have been far more respectful, for royalty, you know, has its privileges. I will in future accord Your Grace all the ceremony your worshipful presence requires.
However, Majesty, your distinction between the "Biafra of territory" and "Biafra of the mind" exposes Your Highness' royal opinion to serious question. I've heard it mentioned among the everyday sort of people that no nation can exist without territorial boundaries, and that if none exist, that nation does not exist. They say it is rather like Your Grace's kingdom, a kingdom of the mind, and therefore non-existent. And so, O Lofty One, a kingdom of territory is urgently required if Your Grace is to maintain authority, not to mention your royal person, for certain unscrupulous persons(I have heard) have sworn a terrible oath to dissolve your kingdom of the mind and subject Your Grace to unspeakable indignities, and it is only I, and a fellow called Candide, and another called Don Quixote, who remain loyal. If only your kingdom were one of territory, methinks all would be well.
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The original Nigeriaworld messageboard was created in June 1999. The article by Rudolf Okonkpo was written in June 2000 to celebrate the first year of that board and the people and topics that made the board tick.
The Mr. B handle was a one-liner expert who frequently made shallow posts.
According to you,
quote:Enobong: Firstly, I must remind you that the archives at Nigeriaworld was deleted along the line. Besides, the Nigeriaworld which you and most members of BNW joined in late 2000-2001 is not the one Nwa Aro is talking about. Though I have kept this as a guarded secret for a long time, but since you want to know, let me for the first time let the world know that the handle which I used at Egbeomo between 1998/1999 was not 'Nwa Aro.' I actually used 'Mr.B.' before using my present handle. It was when 'Mr. B.' was banned in late 1999. Ironically, the reason why I was banned then was because the then 'die hard one' Nigerians like Clement Ikpatt and co claimed that I was a "tribalist" and was spreading my "Igbo madness." It was when I was banned as "Mr.B." that I re-registered at the remodelled old Nigeriaworld as 'Nwa Aro.' There must have been something special about the said "Mr. B." that made bro. Biafra once ask the fela who uses "Dr. B" on BNW if he was me. Though I cant remember coming across a handle called 'Enobong' between 1998/99, I could however vividly remember reading the handle 'Biafra' in this village then. So as you can see the PERSON behind the handle Nwa Aro has been in this cyber business for along, looooog time.
Another credit which I MUST take and want to be so recognized FOR THE RECORDS (since you guys behave like the Nigerian state which hadly honour its heroes,) is that it was Nwa Aro that took the risk of posting this website (which was very unpopular then) to then very popular Nigeriaworld messageboard. How else could one earn his FIELD MARSHALL medal?
The messageboard did not exist in 1998. To punish Mr. B for his one-liners, he was banned in late 2000. You need to get your years straight. I joined that board in 2000 and I remember that Mr. B was still writing his one-liners many months after I joined. Your name, "Mr. B or Nwa Aro" was not prominent in the Who is Who of that old board. People like Ednut, Seun, Biafra, Egwuatu Ozoemena, Keshi, Ogechi Odili, Danladi, Aluko, Ambrose, Daud, CSE, Chiboy, bababoyz, Topcrest, Tunde, Eka, and Damian were very well known on the old board for the power of their writing. BNW was created in March 2001 in response to the banning of some of those stars of the old messageboard.
The second nigeriaworld messageboard that you were talking about was created in 2003 after the original board crashed and its replacement also crashed wiping out years of archive. Thus, unless you are talking about a nigeriaworld messageboard of the mind where you were field marshall, you could not have participated in any nigeriaworld messageboard in 1998.
It seems that that type of confusion is very common in your writing. Do something about it.
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Nwa Aro, I suggest you Calm!!Down!. You are getting too excited. Don't get ahead of yourself now.
quote: Another credit which I MUST take and want to be so recognized FOR THE RECORDS (since you guys behave like the Nigerian state which hadly honour its heroes,) is that it was Nwa Aro that took the risk of posting this website (which was very unpopular then) to then very popular Nigeriaworld messageboard. How else could one earn his FIELD MARSHALL medal?
This statement above is very questionable. Remember that we were all there. I suggest you stick to you main jist and don't try and embellish who you are by trying to pull things out from nowhere. Easy now!!
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To say that the so called "Illiterate" traders (according to Nwa Aro) in Igboland and those scattered all over Nigeria and even overseas has among it's ranks experts and best brains in various fields of undertaking is non issue, what we are yet to ascertain is, what field of speciality does Nwa Aro belong?.
Let me also ask Nwa Aro few questions about his powdered milk industry and of his biggest Internet cafe bar in Ale-mania; after all, if all things are equal, he will be leaving a legacy by helping to both improve our home economy and admonish our people's name.
Sir, can you please explain the following to let your audience be rested of any doubt about what you have or have not in respect to cliams about ownership of various businesses including the above mentioned.
1. Competence in ceteris paribus, what percentage does your company occupy in Aba dry milk market supply in a month?.
2. What factors can provoke a possible higher demand of your products and what are the substitute and complementing goods to your product?.
3. What is your brand name and what impact does it have in the overall milk industry in Aba and the rest of Igboland?.
4. What is the evidence of your ownership of Internet cafe in Germany and what parameter was used to qualify it (if true) as one of the biggest in Germany?.
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Wao! I thought folks in this village will listen to the "advice" not to reply to the thread started by the "enemies." Nwa Aro must be an enigma to continue to receive rejoinders - pros and cons.
Osetutu: On that one I can bet my whole money. It is fact that I was the FIRST to post the address of this website at the Nigeriaworld.com messageboard. I even wrote in my mail before including this web address below that folks there should visit it as well. N/B: I did it with the handle Nwa Aro.
Ayodele: Firstly, I must thank you for the correction on the year. Honestly, if not for the childish challenge presented by the "new" members, I wouldn't ordinarily remember what year I actually registered with "Mr.B" at Nigeriaworld. com.. But to say that "Mr. B." whom even Rudolph Okonkwo was gracious enough to put in the front row of his "who is who" was a "one liner" is to say the least FALSE. You can help us out if you insist it to be so by reproducing one or two of those "one liners" from me if you dont mind. In any case, a single word, talkless of a "one liner" could make more sense and difference more than all the grammar anyone could write or speak. Remember there's a saying which says, "a word is enough for the wise." Besides, the onus of my rejoinder to Greg was to tell him that I HAVE BEEN THERE, seen the battle (be it with "one liners,") and made my voice heard -- where and when it mattered most. Whether I did it with a letter or a word is totally and completely irrelevant. BTW, where is the name of the latter-day Biafran "intellectuals" like Ohafia and Greg on that list?
Below is a quote from Rudolph Okonkwo's article:
Quote: ----------------------- "Some of the names that have graces the Nigerian messageboards are unique to Nigeria. Names like MrOneNaija, Ndigbo, Ranka Dede, Juju Jungle, Ikembafront, Biafra, SperK, Mr. B, Anu Nti, Ojukwu, Big Steve, and Ajasco...Whatever name anyone is using, mere mentioning of these names receives a serious response from the bearer of the name." -- unquote. -------------------------
The record in Okonkwo's article clearly show that 'Mr. B,' aka, Nwa Aro's handle appeared before that of Enobong and those you mentioned in your mail. That is one FACT which neither you nor anyone could change. I would have discarded my rank if the handle 'Greg' or the talkative latter-day "intellectuals" were on that list, or if "Mr. B." was missing in action. But since that is not the case, I still remain FIELD MARSHALL NWA ARO, that is, until those who want to dethrone me do what my type did, or more. Once again, thanks for the correction. Arguing with those who correct with good intent and presenting hard evidence to support same is not my fort.
Greg: I really enjoyed your "comic relieve" to use your word. On a serious note though, be it in the know that Biafra of territory and "Biafra of the mind" is like night and day. While the former is what most enlightened and informed Igbos have lately discovered to be what OPPORTUNISTS like you want to use to decieve and mislead the Igbo people, the latter on the other hand is an ingredient which is, and will remain in the gene of every person of Igbo descent. Fact of the matter is that no matter how you guys spin, spice or cut it, the word "Biafra" will be with/in the Igbo/Nigerian lexicon, even after you and I are gone to mother earth, and whether the Biafra of territory comes to be or not.
UWAZURUIKE'S BIAFRA OF TERRITORY IS NOT OJUKWU'S "BIAFRA OF THE MIND."
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Okwy: Do you know there's something known as "business secret"? If you dont, and want to know, try go to say BMW (I dont know any multi-national company in Chile) and try to take common photographs inside the company without prior permission from the head of the company and see if you wont find yourself in court, or even jail for "spying."
If you guys are now tired of whinning like babies on BNW and have finally seen wisdom in my earlier advice that you start something back home, no matter how small, then all you have to do is to visit Nigeria and go to the Nigerian Corporate Affairs Commission in Abuja to make the inquiries you want to get free of charge from Nwa Aro.
N/B: This thread was started for you "diehard" Biafrans to tell the world why you want to lead the Igbo people into another dark alley and not about what Nwa Aro owns, did, or did not do. The fact that you guys have moved from answering the HARD questions put to you and are now talking CRAP means that the self-styled "liberators" dont even know how to liberate themselves. YOU TALK OF THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.
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My questions was asked because I have genuine feelings that you might need some psychiatric attention, i do not really believe that a mentally healthy person comports in the same manner as you do; i can recall not long ago, a chap that use to post to Biafraland forum started to show signs of unusual comportment, the type you're now showing and got to the climax of qualifying himself to GOD, as we know, ended up a miserable psychiatric patient.
This is not an insult but I will seriously urge you check out the state of your health and see if all is well; the reason of those questions was in fact a mental test to you, but all can see that the pot is coming to a melt down. Nwa Aro, you might need some help, please endeavour to seek one. I am finished with you for now.
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Might this be an appropriate time to re-post my maiden comment about Nwa Aro, made soon after the commencement of his recent threads? I hope it will shed some light on the behavior and commentary of the said individual.
quote:Biafra,
I agree with you completely. Everything the character Nwa Aro writes is tuned toward his own personal ascendancy over all and sundry. Whether his angle is One-Nigeria or Biafra Actualization, it's all the same to him, as long as he can provide a pulpit for his "Nwa Aro superiority" sermon, and pit himself against his perceived contenders to the throne of Nd'Igbo's cyber-champion.
All:
Nwa Aro appears to be somewhat psychotic. It's common knowledge in psychiatric circles that people who continually refer to themselves in the third person(this should read "tend to see themselves") see themselves in superheroic proportions. Most persons, when referring to themselves, use first person pronouns like "I" or "me," and rarely if ever refer to themselves by using their own names, like as if I would say, "Greg will never do this or that," or "no one will say or do to Greg." Even giving these examples almost makes me feel psychotic, as if I'm talking about someone else instead of myself. Well, this is the normal fare for the character who calls himself Nwa Aro, constantly referring to himself in the third person and embellishing his own character as if he were somehow grandiose and towering above all others, a great and marvellous thinker, when nothing could be further from the truth, his logic and reasoning giving mediocrity a bad name.
I caution all readers to examine the underlying reasons for the nonsensical things Nwa Aro writes. It's not co-incidence that he has gone from one extreme to the other in his political convictions (if you can call them that). He was once a die-hard Biafran(see the archives) but now a One-Nigerian. How does one easily make such a transition...the history of Nd'Igbo in Nigeria hasn't changed, the mistreatment of Igbos is still evident, no new hope for Igbos in Nigeria has materialized...Could it be that Nwa Aro's opinions about Biafra and Nigeria have never really been about the well-being of Igbo people, but rather they were formed to give himself a soapbox on which to stand and stroke his own bloated ego??? And doesn't the trademark use of CAPITALS in his posts support my contention that he wants, above all, to be heard, listened to, and respected??? I dare say that if Biafrans would begin to give Nwa Aro the glory and greatness he desires(but quite undeserved), he would again be the most die-hard Biafran of all.
For Nwa Aro, it's not about Nd'Igbo, or Nigeria, it's about himself, his glory, his fame, his honor, his greatness, his leadership. This is the real reason why Nwa Aro has changed his political views. I rarely respond to what he writes anymore because he makes little or no sense, and I fear his case is hopeless.
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quote:BTW, where is the name of the latter-day Biafran "intellectuals" like Ohafia and Greg on that list?--Nwa Aro
For the record, I am not an intellectual, but am experimenting with being a common trader of sorts, currency trading to be precise. I don't think that qualifies as being an intellectual pursuit in Nwa Aro's opinion.
Also Nwa Aro, on a completely different note, and quite sincerely, I want to take the time to say to you that I think you are probably for the most part a very pleasant person, and a good friend to your friends, and I hate to have to be so harsh with you, but for me, your politics and your opinions are just too extreme to allow them to go unchallenged. You are still an Igbo brother, and entitled to your opinions, but if they fall contrary to what I see as the general good and well-being of Igbo people, I will, by virtue of my personal interest in the whole, engage, attack, discredit, and expose them for what they really are...a lot of unsound and bad advice. Sorry to have to say so.
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Some of the questions on economics relating to substitute and complementary goods tend to suggest that you probably might have just finished taken Principles of Microeconomics and just wanted to show off. What sort of childish question is that?
Mr. N manufactures and sells product Y. And here comes Mr. O asking Mr. N to name substitute and complementary goods of product Y. What is the rationale for such question? I hope you did well in your Econs 101 exams.
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The political heavy weights from South-East led by Chief Alex Ekwueme have formed South-East forum to lead the Igbos probably to the promised land.
Biafra or actualizing Biafra was not part of the agenda. So, where does Massob stand? These bunch of rascals should disband and stop the killings of their followers (the innocents youths).
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You're reaction to my question is far closer to showing off. You would have first asked your so called Mr. N the rationale behind branding the captions of industry in Igboland as "Illiterates and uninformed". It's explicit that a proprietor of an industry will have at least those basic knowledge of the same Principles of Microeconomics and should be capable to define what it takes to manage an industry like the Illiterate traders at Onitsha and Aba do.
Having said that, I am still expecting your Mr. N to please answer those basic questions; it's important that we know that, at the end that Nwa Aro owns a powdered milk producing industry and a large Internet cafe bar at Aba and Germany respectively.
My exams was good and I am glad if that will satisfy you.
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Okwy: The calculated attempt by you and your co-journeymen/women to derail this thread will not work. Wonders shall never end. Imagine a semi-illiterate who claims to live in a backward country called Chile (how could any Nigerian worth that name leave Nigeria to go scratch a living in an equally third world country called Chile) teaching someone who has roots in the economic powerhouse of Europe, Germany, how to start and run his busines. He even want us to believe that he went to a "Business School" and had "good" as his resume.
Okwy, please tell your speech writer, Chiboy to find something better to boost your Onitsha Main Market "business skills." Because even a street hawker can decipher from your cock-and-bull story that you know nothing, I mean NOTHING about corporate business.
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Chile may be a third world country but she is more advanced and more stable than your Nigeria. Indian and Parkistan are also third world country, but see where they are compared to your Nigeria.
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Nwa Aro is behaving like his mentors/handlers Emeagwali/Okenwa Nwosu!
Emeagwali has been exposed as a fraud, Okenwa Nwosu as morally bankrupt and dishonest and Nwa Aro as a fraudster, psychotic suffering with delusions of grandeur and a gold digger when lucid.
I am suprised that he is being taken seriously!
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Wacko & co: As your SECRET attempt to get Nwa Aro banned has been turned down by the Administrator, I can understand why you have finally come out of your hiding to do what you and your fellow story-tellers do best: attack the messenger instead of addressing the ISSUES. As I earlier said, I wont let you guys get out of the tight corner you have put yourselves with this Biafra madness of yours.
Biafra: I would rather live and starve in Nigeria than move from a third world country to another third world country. For no matter how "advanced" a third world country is, there is a reason why the word "third" is afixed to it. I dont know of you, but as far as I am concerned, THERE IS NO WHERE LIKE HOME, SWEET HOME NIGERIA!
Quote: -------------- "There are two kinds of light; the glow that illuminates, and the glare that obscures" - James Thurbar --------------- --------------- "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates. ---------------
As the battle between the FORCES OF DARKNESS, the opportunistic neoBiafrans and the forces of LIGHT, the Igbo-Nigerians continue unabated. I have in continuation of making the case against the Biafra of territory decided to reproduce a similar debate raging in another discussion forums. The article you are about to read is a portion (I decided to copy and paste the part that fits to the theme of this thread) of a debate between an Igbo-Nigerian and a neoBiafran. I have for security reasons withhold the real name of the neoBiafran and replaced it with his alias 'Nwa Biafra.'
Enjoy :
(NWA BIAFRA, BIAFRAN CITIZEN) "I just want to add that there is hardly any sovereign nation standing today which has not gone through defeat or forced occupation or colonization and or the sort of things Biafra is going through today. Yet, they recovered by persisting in doing what is morally right for their nations and for themselves, instead of defeatist expediency in the face of repression and persecution. As such, even tiny countries such as Latvia and Lithuania can smile today as sovereign nations following heavy occupation by massive and massively armed Soviet Union; ditto, East Timor Versus Indonesia."- (Nwa Biafra)
OLISA H. OSITA (name of writer of rejoinder) Nor sir, Mazi (Nwa Biafra.) You are mixing apples and oranges together. Biafra has never existed as a recognized State prior or postcolonial Nigeria. An attempt was made to declare Biafra as an independent state and it failed. Let me provide some historical background of these countries mentioned to show they do not have relationship or bearing with aborted Republic of Biafra. Decolonization and secession are two different issues altogether.
LITHUANIA Lithuania became an independent state way back to 13th century AD. In 1569, Poland and Lithuania merged into a commonwealth state Polish-Lithuania. In 1795 Poland was partitioned and its lands were ceded to Russia, Prussia and Austria. On February 16, 1918 after the First World War, Lithuania re-established her independence. From 1918 to 1940, Lithuania existed as sovereign nation. During the Second World War in 1940, under Mototov-Ribbertrop Pact, Russia annexed it. Under Glasnost, on March 11, 1990 Lithuania declared her independence and joined the UN on September 17th, 1991.
LATVIA Latvia State could also be traced to the 13th AD. It was colonized at various times by Poland, Sweden, Russia and Germany. On Nov 18, 1918 it declared her independence. Her independence lasted until 1940, during the Second World War it was annexed by Russia, under Mototov-Ribbertrop Pact. It declared its independent in 1990 and on August 21, 1991 it joined the UN.
EAST TIMOR East Timor was an independent island until Portuguese occupation in the 16th century AD. During the Second World War it was occupied by the Dutch and Australian troops. After the Second World War the territory was reverted back to the Portuguese. Decolonization of East Timor by Portugal commenced in 1974. Because of internal political upheavals in Portugal, it abandoned East Timor completely. East Timor declared her independence on November 28, 1975. Nine days later, it was invaded by Indonesia. Under peace agreement reached by Portugal, US and Indonesia, UN supervised referendum was conducted and it passed overwhelmingly. East Timor joined UN on May 20, 2002 and UN peacekeeping forces are still monitoring its democratic transitioning.
SUMMARY Biafra never existed as an independent or sovereign nation prior to May 29, 1967. Eastern Region of Nigeria declared the Sovereign Republic of Biafra against the UN and OAU charters of inviolability of territorial integrity. Self-determination is for an existing sovereign, independent state rather than ethnic group or groups within. Nobody is in doubt that Mazi (Nwa Biafra) has convinced himself of his Biafran status. It is Mazi (Nwa Biafra's) fundamental right to believe in anything, including that he is from a superior race or whatever. But he has no franchise to the efficacy of facts inherent in his beliefs. Most Ndiigbo romantic nationalists are always projecting themselves as more Ndiigbo than others. But do these people really care about the interests of Ndiigbo without importing their normal phantasms to supplant logic? Personally, l doubt it and here is why. If they so loved Ndiigbo, have they carried out risk analysis to understand intricate and complex issues surrounding secessionist movements? But these secessionists have never submitted any blue print for success? For instance, Mazi (Nwa Biafra) mentioned the successful independent struggles by Latvia, Lithuania and East Timor. But he failed to mention world powers behind those struggles. US refused to accept Russian’s annexation of Baltic Republics and they were sore points in US-Russian relationship during the cold war. Indonesia invaded East Timor when US was pre-occupied with Vietnam, Portugal was more involved with the decolonization of its rich colonies, Angola and Mozambique. Indonesia’s excuse for invading East Timor was to prevent China from installing a puppet communist regime. But after the cold war, Indonesia has no other excuse than to withdraw. Which world power is behind Biafran cause or secessionist movement? None. By the way, during the Nigerian Civil War, citizens of major European powers, including Britain and the US had huge sympathy for Biafran cause but all their governments were adamant to prevent Biafran secession for its implications in the global geopolitics. Have these governments changed their policies and become more amenable to tribal-national secessionist movements? No. No one single example to support secessionist movement anywhere in the world. The whole world is in favor of complete decolonization of occupied territories. All the examples Mazi (Nwa Biafra) gave fall under decolonization issues. Never mind that our brother (Nwa Biafra) cannot make the difference between decolonization and secession. But l have advice for Mazi (Nwa Biafra) and his ilk. Let Mazi (Nwa Biafra) embark on rigorous risk analysis if there is any chance in the world that Biafran project will succeed. If he finds out there is no chance in this world for its success, would he show his love for Ndiigbo by discouraging impressionable Ndiigbo youths from committing another mass suicide in what would be a predictable outcome? The more Ndiigbo are pressing for secession, be it by violent or non-violent means and falling short, the more they will be loosing socio-economic political power in Nigeria. There are certain things in life that if one cannot have a clear or clean win are better left un-attempted. But here is Ndiigbo problem. Ndiigbo to some extent, not everybody, see themselves as more intelligent and superior to other ethnic groups in Nigeria. Hence the wondered how could anybody outside Ndiigbo qualify to be Nigerian Chief Executive. Ndiigbo want Biafra where they are the dominant ethnic group and their politico-economic leadership is a given. In Europe today, the power brokers are Germany, Russia, Britain, France, Italy and Spain. It would be an aberration for any of these European power centers to be complaining about marginalization. How could one of the three major ethnic groups, excluding over 250 ethnic nationalities in Nigeria, be complaining of political and economic marginalization? Could it because Ndiigbo do not know how to play their cards well enough. Could it be that they are putting all their efforts in unproductive project, namely Biafra?. Please Mazi (Nwa Biafra,) you may wish to stop arguing with me but start arguing with the facts for the enlightenment of our people. Enlightenment of our people is my interest rather than name-calling.
Olisa H. Osita California --------------------------------------
N/B: It was same writer of the above rejoinder that not long ago warned Ndiigbo by telling us that Ojukwu was not the thin-god we members of BNW (Nwa Aro included) thought he was. Just as then, most neoBiafrans took exception to the writer's beam on Ojukwu and called him all sort of names. But as fate would have it, Ojukwu proved the fela right when he started dancing naked in the public on this board. So if hindsight is anything to go by, it may as well turn out that those like Nwa Aro who are being insulted today by the neoBiafrans may as well become the prophets that saw what others (the neoBiafrans) cannot see today.
I will in my next post present my case for a restructured Nigeria as detailed by a true Igbo son.
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I always try at least once to reach the recesses of your confused mind, all to no avail. so it's back to business as usual.
You and your fellow One-Nigerians, if you are truly Igbo, are no better than weak-hearted slaves, willing to bow to those whom you recognize as your masters. What the devil does it matter whether other countries, or whether your European power brokers are for, or against Biafra, an Igbo nation. What have they got to do with Igbo's people's business. What is so wrong with Igbo people governing themselves. Why does the Nd'Igbo have to get permission from others before they embark on the task of determining their destiny. You think too much like a slave Nwa Aro.
If the people want their own nation in order to preseve their common language, culture, and homeland, what is the evil in that? I will tell you. There is no evil in it, but there is much evil denying such a people the right to live freely in their own land while robbing them of their natural resources, and slaughtering them like goats whenever the enemy so desires.
And now we have you and your sell-out buddies claiming that the desire for Biafra caused untold numbers of Igbo youths to commit suicide. That is a lie and is utterly absurd. What you fail to mention is the murderous rage of your anti-Igbo Nigerian comrades whom you now want Nd'Igbo to serve. Murder and suicide are two very different things.
But your Nigerian propaganda would try and convince Igbo people that our youths have committed suicide and were not murdered by the same Nigerian mass murderers who starved children to death. Are not the excerpts of statements concerning the killing of Igbos by Nigerian commanders in various capacities past and present, enough...enough to convince even the most dull-witted imbecile that Igbo people are despised and hated for the most part by a great number of other Nigerians.
And now we have the great Nwa Aro trying to tell us everything is OK. Nwa Aro, I won't have any more friendly words for you, because in my opinion, you are the most blithering idiot I have ever seen or heard of.
All:
What is the alternative to Biafra, the Igbo nation? More of the same from the criminal state of Nigeria??? This is the advice of Field Marshall Nwa Aro. I suppose he wants all Nd'Igbo to grin wide and act happy so as to please the people that murder our children, and to pretend that all is well. These are the sorts that sell their mothers and sisters for a few crumbs.
Nwa Aro, take your garbage and run back to Aso Rock with the rest of your efulefu friends and traitors. You and they are nothing but a bunch of Uncle Toms who are preaching to the field slaves the benefits of staying on Massa's plantation, because you know that as long as they stay out working in the fields, you and your Uncle Tom friends can stay in the Big House. You're disgusting!
The motto of the America's state of New Hampshire is "Live Free or Die"
Nwa Aro's motto seems to be thus, "Be a Happy Slave"
Nd'Igbo cannot allow their historical brutalization and national trauma at the hands of Nigerians to forever cast them into helpless inaction and paralyzing fear, such that has seized upon Nwa Aro and company.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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I have just read your mail contained below. I do not think all these are going to help you, Oguchi, Nd'Igbo or my self.
At the beginning, I canvassed for a meeting or a conference of Igbo intellectuals on the issue under discourse. That was when I had this kind of long unnessary pendantic intellectual arguement with Okenwa.
I would not know how these long essays are going to assist Nd'Igbo. I honestly do not know or see how. In one of my write-ups to Okenwa, I made it clear and for fact that I have northern blood flowing in my veins. By that token I maintain that no one is in a better position to teach me Nigerianism. All my life, before I moved to the UK, I have schooled and worked either in the north or the western part of Nigeria.
The problems I have with you and Okenwa is that why you both condemn Biafra protagonists, you have not come up with a single idea how we could solve the Igbo problems. When did current Biafra movement came about? Certainly it was not there in the 80s or 90s and obviously not in 70s. All those time, Igbos were there including those not supporting Biafra shouting about marginalisation. We introduced it in Nigerian political lexicon. It was when the cries are not headed that people resort to more pragmatic step.
The Igbos that live outside Igbo land are more in number compared to those in Igbo land. Go to all markets in Nigeria, all conner shops. Go to secondary schools in in the north. Mark you that admission quotas into Federal universities in Nigeria have merit quota, educationally disadvantage quota, locality and catchment area quotas. Go to northern universities, the south take over the merit and also cash in on the vacancies left by the northerners. I know some of my Igbo friends who changed names to northern names to be eligible to fill the vancancies when, even though those spaces were not taken up by northerners, southerners were not allow to fill them. I was the President of UNN medical students' association and the vice-president of Nigerian medical students's association. I used to tour medical schools and attended congresses. In some northern universities, I could conduct meetings with regional medical students executives in Igbo because most they were Igbos. When I asked them they told me they won elections because Igbos dominated the numbers of the medical schools.
High primary school enrolment you mentioned should be broken down. How can we not get this clear? Southerners and indeed Igbos living in those places are the ones beefing up the numbers. WHY DO YOU THINK IGBOS ARE REQUESTING TO HAVE ETHNIC ORIGIN AND RELIGION AS ENUMERATING CRITERIA? WHY DO YOU THINK THE NORTH DO NOT WANT THESE CRITERIA? It is interesting you mentioned Kaduna. The population of Igbos in Kabala, Ngwa Rimi and central city of Kaduna alone is staggering. That was why they were able to hit back at the "Jihadists" that thought they could swoop up on them as before. After 1987 massacre of the Igbos in which the then Military Governor of the state Col. Umar, categorically condemned the atrocity on the Igbos living in the state, Igbos deviced a strategy. I was one of the Igbo youths then in Plumule Club who had closed door meeting with Igbo traders' Unions in the North and urged them to device means to counter such ethnic massacre of Igbos by hoodlums in the north.
So when in 1991 they attached them, the "jihadists" got more than they bargained for. Igbos hit back and harder too. Igbos outnumbered the indigines, drove them back, touching mosques and Bank of the North as they left destructions in their wake and trail - in anguish bid to tell the northerners that no ethinic group had monopoly over meyhem. They gave as good as they got or even more. I remember that Plumule tacticians had moved to Jos a day before in order to monitor the attack. When the "jihadists" wanted to replicate the 1966 northern cities' progrom and ignited attack on Igbos in Kano, they also got worse beating.
When officials see that the Igbos have gained upper hand, the northern controlled security forces are drafted in to join the fracas against the Igbos. This rattled IBB government and he called for registration of private arms. That is where the injustice lies! They would not be protected by the state when attacked, but whenever they decide to protect themselves, the same state would penalise them. Why am I saying all these? To tell you, that you cannot fight back in a foreign land if you do not have the numbers.
The skewed census figures you quoted if anything are bolstered by Igbos resident in the North. This what we want to change that is why we are saying we want ethnic origin used in counting. If the north is confident of this so called population they have, let them stop resisting the move.
The duty of a state among other things to protect the citizens and their property. Igbos are not protected in things like that. In a civil society those attacked have inelianable rights to self defense. This is also denied the Igbos. To worsen matters, the state use official apparatuses meant to protect them to subjugate them. Yet you tell them that they have no case...You must be living in another planet not this earth! The odds are starked against the Igbos. These are what is fuelling Igbo seperatist thinking and movement.
I will leave the issue of filibustering until you respond to my mail. You claim people "approach discourse as an opportunity to win arguement", which I think is exactly what you are doing.
You agreed Nigerian census has always been controversial. To settle the matter as much as possible, Igbos are advancing some practical steps to help address some of the confusions. You chose to ignore that practical step as you bent steep in an attempt to justify the northern "huge" population. Who is now trying to win an arguement by not subjecting to common sense and simple reason. You do not want to agree that Igbos are the most itinerant ethnic group in Nigeria. One Yoruba friend of mine once said to me that the mother told her not to marry an Igbo man, but that if she got to a place, no matter how remote, and could not see an Igbo man after an hour, that she should ran off the place immediately because it could be a sign that the land is uninhabitable. Could you guess the percentage or number of Igbos you think reside in the north?
If you go to the north, the northern kids go about with plates asking for alms, "sadaka". Igbo traders as poor as they could be still manage to send their kids to school. Nothern kids hardly go to school. In the south they are non-existent. Rare to see them in universities in the south. In the north, southern kids fill the whole place 35% of them Igbos. Instead of quoting figures by others, you and I could go and test this out on our own. If you do, you will that the numbers you are quoting are phatom.
Are you denying that Britain did not rig Nigerian census figures in favour of the north? Are you one of the people who believe British activities in Nigeria were holy and just? If you say so then there won't be any need to continue with you on this topic! Britain taught the north how
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