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“These spring largely from the fact that Iboland was not a centralized state, but consisted of a very large number of independent and relatively small polities. Their number makes the scientific study and collation of their traditions difficult, and their complicated and democratic systems of government were not particularly conducive to the systematic preservation of knowledge about the past.”
The IBO People and the Europeans
The Genesis of a Relationship – 1906
By ELIZABETH ISICHEI
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“Here are the questions the advocates of a free Biafra MUST answer before committing Ndi Igbo to another inevitable war.

1. Who will lead this country -- the wawa's? the ijeke ebees? The Onitsha's? Nnewi's, Obosi's? Imo's, Achi's, Abia's etc? Who and how would he/she be selected. We have no Zik any more, No Okpara, no Akanu Ibiam. We have enough egomaniacs like Ojukwu, we have thieves, but nobody, no nationalist as far as the eye can see.

2. How will we forge a relationship with all the hostile neighbors that surround us: the people of SS, SW, all of north? If we know how to rally some of these people to our course, would that not be easier to do now and use such a leverage to obtain what we think is owed us in the present Nigeria?

3. Any war in this century will cost at least $US5 million a day. How do we plan to raise enough to sustain us until Nigeria capitulates? Let us assume that our forces can bring Nigeria to its knees in 5 years.

4. How do we keep our supply chain open? Food supply and weapons supply chains?

5. Do we have the required political acumen to deal with international brouhaha that will ensue? Who are the current Ikejiani's that will open diplomatic recognition's for us? Who are the big super powers we can count on?

6. How do you mobilize our youths, train and equip them and get them battle ready and where would you begin this mobilization and training?

These are the simplest questions. Army, air force, and navy commanders and tanks, war planes and warships need to be supplied. Strategies need to be developed. Many, many things!

Those of you who read the bible will recall the story about the spies sent to assess the possibilities of the Israelites attacking Jericho. The spies came back and reported that it was not doable. But God had other ideas. It is possible that Mr. Osita and I and a few others represent those spies who had no faith in God. So I am willing to keep listening! “ - Igbo intelligentsia

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I could have sworn that the questions above had been answered:

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If you also noticed I continue to use the term “Igbo Biafara”, this revolution is built on the premise that every nation must speak for her self, and must also make the ultimate decision by themselves and themselves alone on whether to continue as Nigerians or actualize their own nation state.
One of the complaints of the Igbo neighbors is that Igbo continue to meddle in their affairs and this has created some unwelcome friction amongst them. These nations now have the opportunity to either succeed or fail on their own, and this time there will be no finger pointing!
Each nation must now decide what is in her best interest.

China, a world power solved the huge ego of its people, by implementing a scheme where everyone bar none world be addressed as comrade.
In Biafara, all men will be addressed as Maazi and women as AdaEze or any other term that is agreed upon.

Igbo Biafara territory:

The territory of Igbo Biafara will encompass every inch of Igbo land both East and West of the Niger, which of course includes Port Harcourt since Port Harcourt is Ala Ikwerre.

It is also important to note that from the research of Ekwe Nche Organization, one important point kept on coming up, “Every advanced or developed nation is built on the culture, tradition and philosophy of its people, that being the case, Igbo Biafara will be built on the culture, tradition and philosophy of Ndi Igbo, the rule of law, and of course OHA must be supreme, “Truth – Eziokwu bu ndu”, and not shades of truth will reign supreme in Ala Igbo.

Leadership: Collective Leadership will be the mode of leadership. Never again must Igbo allow herself to be ruled by some self-declared Messiah. Since no other nation exhibits the messianic complex as does Igbo, Collective leadership would be the only form of leadership to hold it in check. One then starts to understand the ingenuity of our fore-parents.
One model would be a collection of semi-independent Igbo nation states, each sending a representative to the center, and this group will represent the presidential council. This way, no one section can impose herself on the other sections of Ala Igbo.

Our fore-fathers said beauty starts at home, it is not important to worry about what others think of you or if they will recognize you, get your Igbo house in other, and the world will have no other choice but recognize Igbo. One of the greatest states men that Africa has and will ever see, the Elder-statesman, Maazi Julius Nyerere has already made the Igbo case. I suspect Nwa Aro has no idea who this giant was, or he would not have insulted him.
Nigeria still remains a country because Ndi Igbo continue to breathe life into that abominable copse.

Like Israel, if a hair of an Igbo is touched, Igbo Biafara will meet out ten times an equal payment, then and then alone can Igbo say “Never again”!

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I figure that since you are the Igbo intelligentsia, you should have no difficulty doing a little research.

The answers you seek are in your past, your fore-parents answered those very simple and very easy questions, thousands of years ago. But if you still have problems answering your very simple questions, I suggest you go to the website www.ekwenche.org, take your time and read the information there in. While reading, it is important you ask yourself how what you read answer your questions.

If you still do not have the answers to your questions, avail of yourself the many write-ups of ‘Maazi Nnaemeka Mene Onumonu’, there should be hundreds of them since it goes way back to at least nine years, since the inception of this MOVEMENT.

The beauty of what we do, is that we have already given the 'One Nigerians', and their murderous and genocaustal leaders all the answers.
We want to make that they know what is coming down the pike, and that there is nothing they can do about it. The more they struggle, the tighter the noose.

WE WANT THEM TO SUFFER.

By the time we are done, Africa will once more become a continent where the rule of law is supreme!

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Nwa Aro
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"No one says it better that (than) the great Igbo Elder-statesman, Maazi Frederick Forsyth:"
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Ohaka:
Why cant you guys go read your history books, or better still understand it properly before coming here to disgrace yourselves? Please, you guys should note that our readers are not all Igbos or even Nigerians but also include non Nigerians and non Africans who read you and I for to get the FACTS.
People dont tune into this channel to be brainwashed with rehearsed and reharshed Ojukwu's propaganda that made it impossible for most world powers to support his pet Biafra project of the 60s. So, when next you want to state your case, if you have any, just stay with the FACTS and stop mixing your emotions with history. Your mixing oranges with grapes story by trying to use what Frederick Forsyth, whom by the way was a sacked BBC journalist, who later turned into active mercenary work by siding with the Biafrans said or did not say to make a case for Biafra of 2005 is as idiotic as it can be.
It may also interest you to know that it was such NOBODIES from the west like Frederick Forsyth who gave Ojukwu the wrong impression that the British government and establishment were behind his declaration and actualization of the old Biafra, and which helped prolong the Nigerian civil, and by so doing multipled the victims on the Igbo side.

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“The United States National Intelligence Council in a document entitled "Map-ping Sub-Saharan Africa's Future" has predicted "outright collapse of Nigeria" as a nation-state within the next 15 years.---Oha ka.
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Another false story anchored on mischieve.
Is it not same "Intelligence Council" that misled the Americans and her allies of mostly third world countries to war based on a "dunk case"? Was it not the false alarm that was riased by the socalled U.S. Intelligence which claimed that Saddam Hussein had "weapons of mass destruction" that turned out be a a haox that you still want the world to take serious?
You guys are clearly living in Ojukwu's dreamland of fantacies thiry-plus years after he (Ojukwu) also made the mistake of thinking that the western media reporting the dying Igbos traslates to mean that the western goverments will side with his Biafra. Examples like above is why most Igbo-Nigerians think you neoBiafrans have not learned anything from Ojukwu's blunder; it is for same reasons that the Nwa Aros will continue to question your interior motives.
BTW, have you ever asked yourself why the war-monger called George Bush has not found it easy to sell his "weapon of mass destruction" gabbage after the invasion of Iraq? Have you asked yourself why he and the Americans have instead resorted to using diplomatic means, mostly through the European governments, namely, Germany, France and Britain in dealing with Iran and North Korea? Only people like you who do not have a good case to make on WHY Nigeria should be cut and shared into enclaves that will be so stupid to take such JUNK from the American Arms Dealers Association, aka, "U.S. Intelligence Community" seriously.
In any case, as our Igbo elders would say "ogu akakara adighi egbu ngworo," in other words, a cripple hadly dies in a pre-arranged war. So if those behind the "intelligence report" were so stupid to have made it known to the power that be in Nigeria of when and how Nigeria's demise will happen, then you and can be sure that the Nigerian authorities have, or are stockpiling enough arms and manpower waiting and preparing for any secessionist who will carry our the script writen in the said "security report" come 2020, when you and I will be living in an Eldorado republic of Biafra!

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"The territory of Igbo Biafara will encompass every inch of Igbo land both East and West of the Niger, which of course includes Port Harcourt since Port Harcourt is Ala Ikwerre."---Oha ka
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Another Mungo Park discovered River Niger story!
I hope though that the Port Harcourt you are talking about is not the same Garden city where I grew up.
Try go tell the trash you wrote above to an Ikwerre man/woman in any part of Rivers State and see if you will not be declared persona non granta in every part of Port Harcourt.
And before you go making such false and misleading statements, may I remind you that Port Harcourt city, which comprises of the "Old Town," the "Diobus" and the "Rumu" this or that is not only owned by the Ikwerres alone.
And before you go contradicting your fellow Biafrans, it must be stated that others who made such jumbo-jambo Biafra case did claim that your Biafra of territory will include Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers and even part of Delta State. So why change the topography mid-stream to now claim that it will be an Igbo-only "Igbo Biafra"?
Doesn't that prove that you neoBiafrans are as confused and divided as to what you are fighting for and who will be part of it?

Ohaka, with every due respect, I must say that you and your fellow neoBiafrans attempt since I started this thread to make a case for Nigeria's disintergration has been like the outcome of a conversation I had with some not-so-educated Igbos (they numbered about five) whom I met at a gathering during one of my visits to Nigeria when they ignorantly bragged that, "uwa asignigo Biafra" (meaning in Igbo that the world has signed Biafra). When I questioned and persisted to be explained what they meant by "signed Biafra," what I discovered was that they actually wanted to say that "the world has recognized Biafra." As the inquisitive mind that I am by nature, I asked to know from those fellas who and which country "recognized" their Biafra? Amazigly, till we ended our rather short debate, those folks were still scatching their heads not being able to name which country "signed" their Biafra. Yet, those were same people who were talking about a Biafra of territory prior to me exposing their ignorance as though they knew what they were talking about or what they wanted.

Sadly, reading some of the story you guys tell on this board about your moribund Biafra reminds me of the above encounter and can also be equated to what our then unlettered parents used to say that "Zik ekwukwa oso," meaning that Zik has said something again. When infact Nnamdi Azikiwe never said anything new, or what he said was misquoted or misinterpreted by the few educated Igbos then.
It is on that base that I still say that when one filters the emotion-laden writing on this thread and match them with the practicabilities and achievabilities on the ground, I still hold the oppinion that you neoBiafrans are miles away from making a CONVINCING case for a Biafra of territory, either in Igbo land, in Nigeria, or at such world bodies such as the African Union, the European Community, the Commonwealth, not to talk of the United Nations.

You guys really have a load of work to do, both on the Nigerian front and in the international front to be taken serious by any neutral and reasonable person.

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Those whom Dr. Oke-Nwosu claimed were out to "restructure Nigeria" seems to be like the neoBiafrans: a bunch of OPPORTUNISTS and CONFUSIONISTS.

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PRONACO crisis deepens as factions engage in mudslinging

Friday, October 14, 2005

AS the crisis rocking the Pro-National Conference Organisations escalates loyalists of the two rival factions have been engaged in exchange of verbal missiles report Okey Ndiribe and Paul Odili
The crisis which erupted within the leadership of PRONACO few weeks ago has taken a new dimension as young radical members of the group are now planning to start the process of convening the conference afresh. Already, the radical faction has described the inauguration of the parallel conference which took place last October one as a charade which cannot lead to the convening of a people’s driven Sovereign National Conference. This was disclosed Wednesday, in Lagos by Pastor Femi Israel, a leading member of the group which seized control of the PRONACO secretariat in Lagos last week Thursday.
Pastor Israel who is also the President of the National Salvation Front ( NSF)- one of the affiliate groups of PRONACO - told Vanguard that what happened penultimate Saturday was not what the founding fathers and moving spirit behind the PRONACO project envisioned.
According to him: " There are some people within the leadership of the organisation who committed a grave error by announcing the inauguration of the conference on October one and felt there was no other way for them to save face other than to just stick to that date whether the organisation was prepared for it or not".
He explained that this development had been the basis of a major disagreement within the organisation, adding that some members of the group also felt that the right structures and persons ought to be put in place within PRONACO before the commencement of the parallel confab.
Giving further insight into why the radical elements within the organisation decided to seize control of the secretariat, Pastor Israel said that for a long time many people had tolerated the deplorable situation within PRONACO.
He continued: " We allowed the leadership of the organisation particularly under Chief Enahoro to play around with the destiny and intelligence of members of PRONACO. For too long we knew that those he put in the secretariat were not actually working for the purpose of convening the Sovereign National Conference but were instead working on a hidden agenda hatched by the Chief himself".
He pointed out that although this situation persisted for a long time, many members of the organisation did not want any crisis within the group that would attract media attention and therefore kept silent.
It is now clear that when the radical group could no longer keep silent, it protested against what it considered to be lethargy on the part of the leadership of PRONACO. The radical group was said to have felt frustrated over the goings-on within the leadership of the group and decided to effect some drastic changes. The take-over of the secretariat was believed to have been executed as part of the group’s agenda to implement its own programme for convening the parallel conference.
According to Pastor Israel : " What happened penultimate Thursday was a realisation by the genuine pro-Sovereign National Conference forces within PRONACO that Chief Enahoro had run his full course. It was also a realisation of the fact that it was time for those who are genuinely committed to the ideals and founding vision of PRONACO to take their destiny into their own hands and then lead this process to a genuine independently convened sovereign national conference".
Pastor Israel does not believe that the crisis would affect the enthusiasm of those who are willing to participate in the PRONACO confab, adding that worse crisis had befallen other organisations and political parties in the country. He said what really matters is the programme of action that the group implements from now on. He pointed out that the group’s recent publication of the report of the PRONACO technical commission on ethnic nationalities and conference modalities in some national newspapers was another step towards convening what he called "the real conference". Pastor Israel further stated that the next step to be taken by the group is to hold mini conferences to receive memoranda from the various geo-political zones across the country.
In his own comments, the Director of Media and Publicity of the radical group who identified himself as Bright Ezeocha told Vanguard that a temporary management structure has been put in place since the secretariat was seized last week. He accused the Enahoro leadership of procrastinating over implementation of the organisation’s programme since last January. Mr Bolaji Rosiji, another chieftain of the Ransome-Kuti faction had last Monday briefed the press at the Grand View Hotel, Magodo-Lagos secretariat of the group to outline its programme of action.
However loyalists to the Chief Enahoro led faction of the organisation dismissed the claims of Pastor Israel, Ezeocha and Rosiji. In fact, the representative of the Arewa Consultative Forum believed to be a leading member of the Enahoro faction , Yerima Usman Shettima has labelled members of the Ransome-Kuti faction as "Those who want subvert the PRONACO conference".
In a statement he issued last Monday in Lagos, entitled "Enemies Within PRONACO uncovered At last" Shettima stated that : " The Arewa Youth Consultative Forum AYCF and the leadership of PRONACO youth wing hereby alert the Nigerian people of a grand plot by some sponsored forces within PRONACO to subvert the People’s National Conference at all cost. These forces have suddenly become desperate and aggressive given the successful take off of the people’s conference on October one 2005; contrary to the bargain they have with their sponsors".
He accused the Ransome-Kuti faction of working hand-in-glove with state security agents to intimidate and arrest prominent members of the Enahoro faction.
He continued: "It is imperative to note that having failed to sufficiently whip up sentiments against the leadership of PRONACO on grounds of organizational finances, structure and spread, these elements have now resorted to gestapo activities such as conniving with state security operatives to arrest prominent members of PRONACO.
"They make strange telephone threats, plot gangster violence and physical assault which smacks off desperation and this is sharply opposed to the rule of logic and civility upon which PRONACO is established" he said.
He also accused the Ransome-Kuti faction of facilitating the recent arrest of leader of Niger Delta Peoples Volunteer Force ( NDPVF), Alhaji Asari Dokubo, believed to be another prominent member of the Enahoro faction.
Shettima proceeded to warn members of the public to refrain from having any dealings with the Ransome-Kuti faction of PRONACO.
Shettima’s views were reinforced by that of another chieftain of the Enahoro faction Mr Wale Okunniyi, who insisted that the secretariat is still intact and their own faction in-charge. However he maintained that there were no factions in PRONACO.
Said he: "I do not belong to any faction and PRONACO is not divided. The claims made by Bolaji Rosiji are wrong. He works with us on a part time basis. He takes orders from us, and he cannot say his group has taken charge. We are still working from the secretariat of PRONACO, and so any talk about take over of the place cannot be true. In fact, my questions to him are: "What does he know about revolutionary movements? What does he know about political struggles?"
He continued: "People like him are sponsored, because nobody can point to the movement that threw him up."
" Where did he get the money he said they used in buying trucks, if he is not sponsored ? " he asked again.
However, there are indications that elders in the group have been holding meetings to mend fences within the organisation. This was confirmed by leading members of both factions.
Commenting on the reconciliation process Okunniyi said: "Enahoro and Dr. Ransome-Kuti are talking to each other, but we know there are certain elements that want to widen their differences".
He continued: "But we will not allow it. We have fought a long hard battle for the convocation of the Sovereign National Conference. So we will resist any attempt to widen minor differences. And the difference between them is just on methodology, procedure and minor administrative disagreement. But what is important is that they have agreed on the main programme which is the convocation of the Sovereign National Conference.
It would be recalled that the crisis within the group erupted few days before the widely expected commencement of the parallel confab last October 1. The crisis which had been brewing for months blew into the open with a letter of protest written by Deputy Chairman of the group, Dr Beko Ransome-Kuti to the Chairman, Chief Anthony Enahoro.
In the four-paged letter, Dr. Ransome Kuti accused Chief Enahoro of frustrating all high profile personalities and leaders from the northern and eastern parts of the country out of the organisation. He further accused Chief Enahoro of unilaterally fixing the October 1 take-off date for the conference.
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