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Just a curiousity...but i have noticed there exists real hatred between these two types of Igbos. Why is that? Is it true that Anambra people are more related to Benin and Igala people and that Imo people are core Igbos? Please can some one explain. Thanks.
___________________ Who said Biggie Smalls is dead? Posts: 16 | From: Lagos, Nigeria | Registered: Sep 2005
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Could you sir, please take your yoroba spin to your egbowu or whatever forum to spill your lies? Was any Sampling of the population conducted by you and your stealing president to arrive at this BS? Didn't one of the yoroba states recently and violently remove a deputy governor, Aluko and the sky didn't fall. I guess that's 'love'?
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Please calm down, i am not trying to incite trouble but sincrerely learn about Igbo culture and people. I am not Yoruba, rather half Igbo and half English. I have no need to explain myself so i will stop there. ALl i want to know is why there is some animosity between different Igbos. Thants all.
___________________ Who said Biggie Smalls is dead? Posts: 16 | From: Lagos, Nigeria | Registered: Sep 2005
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Ok, I'll try to calm down but you have to drop this topic because it reeks with INCITEMENT. You should know that there's misunderstanding within every ethnic group in that concocted land. Enough, guy. Take care.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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And I said there's none, only in the imagination of wicked liars. Are other ethnic groups free from this your sudden inquiry? Cut it, please.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Thats not the truth, though is it? Look at this:
The Policy of Containment in the East
By
Michael Okoye
mackoye@yahoo. co. uk
From 1940’s to 1979 Easterners [Ibos] knew their leaders and our leaders knew their followers. The Ibos were more united than they are presently. There were only two Ibo states in the East then – Old Anambra and Old Imo states. The two states were more like orphans in Nigeria then and both saw reasons why they should be their brothers keepers. Destiny had somehow entrusted leadership positions on many Anambrarians for reasons best known to destiny and this had never gone down well with most non-Anambrarians from 1960 to Date.
Friction took a Quantum leap at the PDP national convention in 1999 and 2003 where sons and daughters of Jacob [Ibos] sold their brother Joseph [Ekwueme] into slavery for reasons best known to them. Today they are gnashing their yellow Biafrian teeth, shouting Ibo presidency to high heavens, crawling , begging and licking the asses of their fellow Nigerians to help them actualize their sick dreams.
But before the first PDP convention, there had already been cracks in Iboland that appeared way back in ’79. When chief Obafemi Awolowo decided to choose an Iboman as his running mate in preparation for the second republic, he turned to Anambra state and took chief Umeadi. The same year, Alhaji Shehu Shagari chose Dr. Alex Ekwueme as his running mate too and after the election he equally made late Dr. Chuba Okadigbo his political adviser. And in that same period, chief Ume-Ezeoke was picked as speaker of the House of Representatives. All from Anambra state.
Things took a more dangerous turn when IBB gave Ibos five states of their own and Anambra people automatically became endangered species in Iboland generally and more especially in Enugu and Imo states. Shortly after the state creation by IBB government, all Anambra civil servants outside the new Anambra state were sent packing like slaves, back to their state. My mother happened to be one of the causalities. Presently in Nigeria, an average Enugu citizen and his Imo state counterpart finds it difficult to hide his/her hatred for anything Anambra for reasons best known to them.
Political leadership in Iboland started with Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe and Dr. Michael Opara – both from Anambra and Abia state respectively. Then came col. Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu and General Aguiyi Ironsi – again from Anambra and Abia states respectively. Presently in Iboland,
Anambrarians and Abians had worked harder than other people in Iboland to overcome the scars and loses of the civil war. Virtually every good news about Iboland, comes from these two states, their industrialization, entrepreneurship, commerce, inventions etc. Virtually everything about Ibomans ingenuity comes from these two states and I believe there is virtually no friction between Abians and Anambrarians because citizens from both states are not as mentally lazy as Ibos from the other Ibo states. But Anambrarians, by a stroke of luck and hard work, had dominated virtually everything in Iboland from pre-independence era to date and most of the lazy minds found in Imo state and Enugu state in particular had successfully engineered the friction that had torn the brotherly love in the East to shreds.
Presently there is a dangerous policy of containment in the East, engineered by some traitors from Imo and Enugu states to stop anything and anybody from Anambra from making any headway in the political lives of Nigerians. The problem with Ibos producing the next president of Nigeria has nothing to do with other Nigerians buying the idea, but rather has a lot to do with the Ibos supporting who other Nigerians wish to support from Iboland. Nigerians have spoken and they are willing to support an Iboman to be president of Nigeria come 2007 and the Nigerians that had spoken had equally penciled down some credible names for that high office, but the problem now is that the names might end up been mostly from Anambra state. The problem of Ibos capturing Aso Rock is all about the state of origin of the Ibo occupant of Aso Rock. Once he is not from Anambra state, virtually every Iboman would be happy for reasons best known to them too.
Chief Emmanuel Iwuanyawu, Ojo Maduekwe, Arthur Nzeribe, Chimaroke Nnamani, Achike Udenwa etc had all sworn never to be alive and see an Anambra man in Aso rock, but they want to see an Iboman in that office. Every Anambra man must be contained by any means and anywhere – in schools [among students and among teachers]; in offices anywhere in Nigeria [between bosses and their subordinates]; in the markets among traders and their customers]; in churches; in hell and in heaven. This policy of containment is total and is about to explode. This special hatred for anything Anambra in Iboland is at the root of all the problems in Iboland and until it stops, Ibos can neither be united nor achieve their collective dreams.
The containment policy is not the solution to Ibos problems, but rather imposing a more rigid policy that would free the minds of most non-Anambrarians from mental laziness Everyone is aware of the satanic role Arthur Nzeribe played during the civil war. Everyone is equally aware of the sadistic role the late K. O. Mbadiwe played in early ‘90s when he and his friends went on air to announce the sudden death of the Great Zik of Africa while the old man was busy watching their stupidity and hatred for him on his TV.
All from Imo state. Where has all these evil gotten them today. A bunch of wasted sperms that had refused to cut their coats according to their sizes. Everyone is equally aware of the satanic role chief Iwuanyawu played at the last general elections. A man chosen by Ohanaeze to head a committee created for the sole purpose of finding a credible Ibo candidate for the position of president, went out of his way to openly campaign for OBJ. [out of poverty] and was stupid enough to say publicly that he had not seen any credible Ibo candidate for the office of the President. There was Kalu. I. Kalu, Gen. Ike Nwachukwu, Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, Jim Nwobodo, and the most credible of all been Dr. Alex Ekwueme. Who in Nigeria then and now is more credible and qualified for that office than Ekwueme. Ekwueme’s crime in Iboland still remains that he is too principled, super rich and the worst of all is that he is from Anambra state.
A few of the remaining thinking adults in Iboland are equally aware of the satanic roles Adolfus Wabara and Arthur Nzeribe are playing in the election crisis in Anambra state. You can keep on with your policy of containment and I guess you would find a more credible candidate after the Asteroid had landed in 2014. You see, you do not need to beg and prostrate to Nigerians for anything. You only need to earn their respect the hard way, like the real Ibos. Done !
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I guess there's no sense communicating with you since I've in less than no time uncovered your true motive, incitement. From what you keep reposting I can see that you would rather believe a youngster that was probably born around eighties here in the U.S. than listen to a veteran of Igbo affairs. BTW: I'm an unadulterated Imolite who see every Igbo as ONE, from East Central State/Eastern Region if you join our other brothers from Calabar, Rivers etc. So much for your not being Yoroba. I think you're. Good byeeeeeeeeeeee!
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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I started to write a lengthy reply to your question but then decided against it. It’s simply not worth the trouble. I can only give you one piece of advice though + that is be careful where you get your information. You stated on another thread that you got the article from Gamji. The Northerners have evidently learnt the divide + rule tactics well from their British masters. You are apparently unaware that going to Gamji to find information about Nd’Igbo is like taking heroin to cure alcoholism.
Let night be shed on this foolishness.
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Now is the winter of our discontent...made glorious summer by this [rising] sun of York. Posts: 325 | From: London | Registered: Jul 2005
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Is this filt your figement of your imagination or are you for real? Get your facts straight. There is no hatred for any Iboman in any part of Igboland. Rather hatred for Igbo efulefu be him Anambra, Abia or Imo. People in Imo hate Iwuanyanwu not because he is from Imo rather because he is an efulefu. There are type types of Igbo the efulefu and the real Igbo.
M.I. Okpara Akanu Ibiam were loved all over Igbo land because they were hard core Igbo. De Sam Mbakwe may his soul rest in peace was loved outside Imo, because he was a true Igbo icon. Ojukwu command foolowing anywhere in Igboland regardless of which State he is from. If you an efulefu and you are from Anambra of course people are going to hate you. So Mr Ellis do you home work and research well.
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Who this Ellis sef, please carry your junk and go somewhere else. For your information my father is Awka and mother Arochukwu and I don't want to see Ekwueme again disgrace Igbos. It ain't got nothing to do with that fictional topic of yours. I suggest u take the question to Nwa Aro. Y'all can discuss with eachother.
I could care less if u are Igbo and Native American, just quit your divisive antics. Anyway I believe Igbos of today will be smart enough to ignore the garbage that u and your ilk are spilling.
There is nothing like core Igbo. Igbo bu Igbo whether u are Ikwere, Abua, Nkanu, Ndokwa, Ika, Agbor, Nkalagu, or Amaobia
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And yet another tentacle of the dis-information octopus launched from the enemies of the Biafran Movement. Their timing is rehearsed, their delivery amateurish, their pretense comical.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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Maybe my title or question was a little provocative, however, that was just to ellicit a variety of responses. Nevertheless, the question still remains: what is at the root of the antagonism that exists between Imo and Anambra people? There is no use denying that it does not exist, for example: If someone from Imo wants to marry someone from Anambra there will be strong objections on both sides. Imo people say that Anambrains are fair weather and are mainly motivated by money, while the Anambra people have the opinion that Imo people tend to be too traditional. I have heard these things with my own ears and sense serious discord between these two types of Igbos. Also, i have heard Imo people say bad things about Onitsha and Awka people, that they are wayward and not good for marriage, and also Anambra people say terrible things about Owerri people who they regard as lazy and inheriters of a weird culture(women breaking kola nut etc) I want to know where do these negative feelings come from because this, from my own experience, lays at the heart of Igbo disunity. Someone please give me a proper answer as i am NOT trying to incite division amongst Igbos.
___________________ Who said Biggie Smalls is dead? Posts: 16 | From: Lagos, Nigeria | Registered: Sep 2005
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Maybe my title or question was a little provocative, however, that was just to ellicit a variety of responses. Nevertheless, the question still remains: what is at the root of the antagonism that exists between Imo and Anambra people? There is no use denying that it does not exist, for example: If someone from Imo wants to marry someone from Anambra there will be strong objections on both sides. Imo people say that Anambrains are fair weather and are mainly motivated by money, while the Anambra people have the opinion that Imo people tend to be too traditional. I have heard these things with my own ears and sense serious discord between these two types of Igbos. Also, i have heard Imo people say bad things about Onitsha and Awka people, that they are wayward and not good for marriage, and also Anambra people say terrible things about Owerri people who they regard as lazy and inheriters of a weird culture(women breaking kola nut etc) I want to know where do these negative feelings come from because this, from my own experience, lays at the heart of Igbo disunity. Someone please give me a proper answer as i am NOT trying to incite division amongst Igbos.
___________________ Who said Biggie Smalls is dead? Posts: 16 | From: Lagos, Nigeria | Registered: Sep 2005
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Listen up young fella, Odogwu answered you in the negative as did numerous other posters yet you insist there must be discord, right? Alright, here's your answer... BUZZ OFF!!
Now, tell us what the beef between the Yoroba and the Bini/Edo folks is? The erudite Oba of Bini, Omo N'Oba Erediauwa once said what he said that I need not repeat here out of respect for the few Yoroba that I still see in reverence. What the Bini Oba said then was made worst with the Ooni of Ife’s bungling of his rebuttal by failing to give a scholarly answer to their history as told by the Bini Oba. So, sir, could you tell us what’s going on between the Bini and Yoroba, who’s elder among the two? Thanks.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Why all the agros!! The guy just asked a simple question, and everyone is going on the defensive. Thats not a good sign.
Mike Eillis, truthfully, there is "something" between Imo and Anambra ibos, called it love-hate kind of relationship if you will. One group always looks down on the other, the one doing the looking down will depend on their state of origin. Then they (Anambra & Imo ) collectively look down on all other ibo outside these two major groups, proclaiming them "not true ibos".
This should not be taken too seriously as such rivalry will always exist between different groups in a community. The Ibos as a group have a enough collective problems deal with already.
As you can tell from the responses so far you touched a raw nerve, an indication that "something" does infact exist. Hope you dont take it too heart.
Have a good morning.
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Fellas, you’re BUSTED what remains now is for you two to take your silly comic review to a banal site where you stand a chance of getting away with your makeeba dance. The question is what’s up with Yoroba and Bini? Why don’t Yoroba pay homage to the Edos who history has shown to be the elder of the two groups? Methinks the Oba of Bini is right. What say ya?
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:Originally posted by MeBiafran: Mike Ellis aka Adaora:
Two stoogies? What a comical two.
Mike Ellis: Registered Sep 2005
Adaora: Registered Sep 2005
Fellas, you’re BUSTED what remains now is for you two to take your silly comic review to a banal site where you stand a chance of getting away with your makeeba dance. The question is what’s up with Yoroba and Bini? Why don’t Yoroba pay homage to the Edos who history has shown to be the elder of the two groups? Methinks the Oba of Bini is right. What say ya?
You my dear man, are bordering on dillusional!
And your point so way off target!! Why dont you stop replying to the post if it bugs you so much!
Ofcos I wouldnt be responsing to your suggestion that Mike Eillis and Adaora are one and the same, just because they registered the very same month and have similar avatar. (Say that to yourself out loud and hear how stupid that it sounds).
Have a great morning.
Posts: 146 | From: Houston | Registered: Sep 2005
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I told U guys to stop responding to that Mike Ellis [AND ADAORA] so that his thread will die off from inactivity but you just couldn't hold your gun in check, could you? - Ednut
And so I yield to Ed's counsel while the clowns continue their clownish owambe.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:Originally posted by MeBiafran: Final answer to Adaora's mediocrity.
quote:MeB,
I told U guys to stop responding to that Mike Ellis [AND ADAORA] so that his thread will die off from inactivity but you just couldn't hold your gun in check, could you? - Ednut
And so I yield to Ed's counsel while the clowns continue their clownish owambe.
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Hate is too much a strong word to describe a brotherly differences between Anambra and Imo state. It gotta be hard to hate when you have too much in common, color, culture, language, history,science and tech, war memos, religion and an instinct for hardwork, conspicuosly different from the rest of both the lazy North and lazy west of Nigeria. I say, try again.
No, Anambra does not hate Imo state or any state within the boundries of Biafranigeria. I have not noticed any fracass or rift between the two. The only incident has been between a state in the SouthEast and another state in the so-call SouthSouth state over a land grab.I am sure the author of this thread has some element of education to differentiate between rilvary and hate if any exist between the two. You either give us some incidents to back up your claim or shut your goddamned Yoruba mouth. And I mean that from my black heart.
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Allow me give an example to properly clarify what i understand from Mike Eliis thread (i could be wrong and if so will stand corrected)....
I'm from Awka; in the recent past my uncle comes to complain to my dad & mom that his daughter's husband was mistreating her, his conclusion was that this would not have been the case if his daughter had married the Awka man "bia lu ya di" instead of her present husband. He even had the ordacity to claim that Awka husbands are the best and behave better than husbands from Ogidi (his son-in-law's place of origin) or any other place in Ibo land for that matter. (I'm stating officially as an Awka lady, that is so untrue). What shocked us the most is that this same man was a "thorn in his wife's flesh" untill he "said he's found Jesus"..
What am I trying to say? Between the different groups in a highly diversified country such as Biafra, these petty rivalries can be expected but not to taken seriously!
Why do you (MeBiafra et al) have so much angst because a "perceived" negative trait among our people was pointed out. Why would we assume that the writer of the thread is "Yourba"? How can we move forward if we can not accomodate views different from ours?
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