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I am on record to say that kesu is not new to BNW, he’s more of a bolaji aluko, an old handle than anything else who will soon abscond only to reappear after many months have passed. I don’t know why a university lecturer takes so much delight in mischief making.
quote:I have tried my best to present facts to these people and all I expected in return was counter views with fact and figures so that we can engage in fruitful discussions… kesu
If you had sincerely hoped for a meaningful discussion when you are about as "crude" as the talibans, how come you came swinging at me simply for asking my Igbo brethren to focus inward something you too say but in a very unflattering manner?
quote:Mebiafra you are really so crude. These Nigerians you mentioned have the right to walk freely anywhere in Nigeria. To say you are in the USA and fail to appreciate the rights of others. I mean what is wrong with you people, don't you have any sense? Kesu
Either you have problems understanding what others write or you just another rabble rouser, in anycase, where was it ever said that you nigerians do not have the right to sneak in and out anywhere that pleases your fancy? Can you please lead me where I made such statement so I can recount?
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MeBiafran, tell me, why is it so hard for you to see me as different from Aluko? Why continue to live in fools paradise thinking only Aluko could express these opinions? What is hard to understand in this: I AM NOT ALUKO! But if after this, you take delight in calling me Aluko, just go ahead, I mean what can I do with you people, after all, you still see victory in the total and complete defeat of Biafra! You still worship the man who led you to war but ran away, abandoned you when the going was tough! Yes, that man who singlehandedly did more damage to the Igbos than the hausas and the yorubas. That is him, Mr. Ojukwu! Since he returned to Nigeria, I wont tire to say, he has not done anything to raise the profile of Igbos in Nigeria. He is totally irrelevant in Nigeria. He wasnt even invited, as much as he openly asked for it, to Obasanjo's sham National Conference.
As for trying to distance yourself from your prior statement, go back to what you said about these people. Why you asked if they should be walking freely around Igboland. You shouldn't ask me to lead you back to it, you are only infirm in the grey area not in the limbs.
Your igbo brethren should be encouraged to speak on individual failings and not in general terms. When your fellow dreamer Amadi, heaped all blames, real and imagined, of Obasanjo on the Yoruba tribe, I did not see any of you reminding him to limit his attack to Obj instead of blaming the whole yoruba tribe. Now when I responded, I see all of you coming out of the woods. Return to your woods until Biafra is a reality. Right now, Biafra exists only in your sick mind.
I can understand why people leave this site: You guys are infantile in your thinking and presentation, you are so tribal it is a psychological failing. You hail Igbos who are in Obasanjo's administration as sign of Igbo superiority yet you castigate the administration as a failed yoruba management. You skipped over the corruption of the successive Senate Presidents, the failings of all governors in the East, the corruption of the former Ministers of Education and Aviation. What demented minds you guys work with lol.
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I am not sure where your tirades are headed certainly not my way but those I questioned why they should freely walk Igbo space are those Igbo that in my opinion are as bad if not worst to the Igbo cause of total freedom from oppression. Unless you love oppressive governments and or people, I don't see why you should take offense to that. It seems you're crying way too much more than the bereaved given your claims of not being a Yoroba. How's that, Mr. Aluko?
"I can understand why people leave this site" only to reappear with new and different handle to cause mischief is what I did say.
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I don't know why others are ignoring our "new member." As for me, I decided to look at the archive, and I saw this. I don't think the admin is banning anyone anymore these days. But, that doesn't mean I have to engage every mad man who wanders in here from Europe or America. Especially, a mad man who is crying that he has been attacked when no one has said anything to him yet.
I don't know if Kesu is Mobolaji Aluko or not. It really doesn't matter. But, even Daud could see that our "new member" has psychological problems (schizophrenia, etc.). Of course, Daud always looks out for his own quasi-Hausa interests, and we all know that there is no love lost between Daud and Mobolaji Aluko going all the way back to the egbeomooduduwa.com days.
Folks:
I will say it again. No one has left BNW. People mutate, re-incarnate, or morph into new handles. At any hour of any day, there are hundredes of people glued to this message board. That is more people than utilize any other BiafraNigerian website. All you have to do is click the who is online link and compare with the other sites.
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Wow, Dave, is that all you can say? Daud is your expert now? Interesting. So, Dr. Dave, what else do you have to say to champion the cause your great people? Leave the personal attack and go for the meat. Tell me something new about Igbos. Tell me why Biafra should even be considered as a separate country from Nigeria. If you can't do so with some objective reasonings, please stay where you were, on the sideline. Others have regaled me with rubbish, I need objectivity.
By the way, i checked the link in your post, it has nothing to do with me, but if your friends still like to address me as Aluko, like I said, they are free to do so, it wont be the first time they have allowed themselves to be misled!
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MeBiafran, you are one post away from being ignored. I see you like to see your post in this great wasteland of cyber but I wont encourage you by joining issue with you. Like your brother Biafra, you are slow. Go right ahead, go and kill those whose opinions are different from yours..in fact, if you have the power go and banish them from Igboland. Talk is cheap.
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quote:Go right ahead, go and kill those whose opinions are different from yours. – Aluko
No one said a thing about killing anyone at least not yet rather all I want is for all the Igbo efulefus in your pay list to be ignored or embarrassed at every chance we get just as was done to them at the Owerre summit weeks ago instead of piling more Chieftaincy toilets/titles and other filths on them despite their wicked gestures towards the identity they wear. Bolaji “ignore” me, can you really? You can’t help it – yourself, even if you try. It’s in your type O (lol) blood, very inherent and knowing that you cannot overlook my posts makes it even the merrier for me to engage you. Most times when I read you the mind gets baffled to know how much hate you hold for anything Igbo. Even our in-house jihadist, idi amin dawadawa has not exhibited the level of stupid hate you harbor for the Igbo tribe without whom your nigeria will be a little dot on some obscure map. Of all the people that has expressed one derogatory remarks or another towards the Igbo, only aluko and oteleniel are the most venomous towards us and my happiness is that some Igbo gentlemen that has been on ROM are taking you head-on, deal with it. And soon, you’ll tear – run. But before you do, I learnt you went as far as doing everything within your little fingers to have all Igbo professors at Howard University kicked out. That’s how low the man bolaji can go! Last time you were shamed out of this GREAT forum, you bragged about your little banal site and one would think having a bolstering site would keep you busy enough not to pay attention to BNW you guys keep trying to sell the lemon of being a “wasteland” yet you remain in it. Now tell me that is not DUMB. Let me remind you that it is very, very hard to earn honors but too easy to loose same. . It has always been your signature to start off firing insults at every person each time you come in here and all I see is an “agbalagba” misbehaving very badly. Long, long time ago, I used to see you differently but not anymore after uncovering how mean spirited you are especially towards the Igbo flock I was told helped your family out of a jam in the sixties. How ingratuous! If you noticed, I’ve not been as fiery as I’m accustomed, that is due to the heavy load of projects I have at the moment still any second I get I’ll make my feelings known just to see you peeved.
As for “Tell me why Biafra should even be considered as a separate country from Nigeria.” – Aluko. I’ll like first of all for you to share the document that we in the Igbo area signed that ok’ed the forced and incompatible union. Sometimes it pays to listen to your self to hear how muzzled your brains are. In one breathe, you demean the Igbo existence as full of treachery (where you got that I don’t know) yet wail and rip to pieces your shokoto - kaftan each time the truth about Igbo willingness to abscond from the tottering big for nothing land of NAZIria hits you in your badly sun beaten face. Do you not see your double speak, boy? We in the Igbo area better known as Biafrans were never brought together with your kinds through a REFERENDUM, the sole avatar in gauging the peoples’ collective will or wishes towards something in the first place. And if you still do not understand that little, then you’re the only crawling like in real slow creature here. What a dare to question our aspirations! I’ve been meaning to congratulate you for leading a three-man demonstration team against your uncle’s wishes to die in office. Though you guys looked like a rag-tag bunch, very unorganized, you still deserve a cheer as I recognize too the little attention paid by the bigger media houses due to your disorderliness.
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Bolaji/kesu or whatever you're called, you cannot pretend to be ignoring me, you know? You're close to getting me ticked off, dude! What's wrong with you, boy?
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Ok, MeBiafran, consider yourself ignored. I really don't have time for your silliness. If you are kicked off, stay home and sleep, you are of no consequence here. As far as I am concerned, enjoy the ignoreland.
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Kesu, agbalagba Ore meji, orishirishi ni; were ni! Those are lyrics of the talking drum sound of a “shofisticated" praise singer, lol.
quote:So Mr. Amadi, whether you like it or not, the "yoroba" have been more sophisticated than the Igbos. -- Kesu
Kesu is still deeply engulfed in the “shofisticated” legend/myth. It surely must take someone who still believes that Oduduwa descended from heaven, to espouse the “shofisticated” myth. Now, to clarify the air, Kesu, do you still believe that Oduduwa descended from heaven? Teasha don’t teash us nonsense!
quote:Come 2007 the man inside Aso Rosck will come from the Northern part of the nation and the Igbos will remain where they are, in the Eastern part of Nigeria, locked in by other nationalities. The simple fact is that even in the south south, Igbos are not trusted. -- Kesu
Yoruba deceit, treachery, untrustworthiness, otherwise known as “sophistication”, is still very much a feature during the presidency of the animal, called man, Obasanjo. There is an unimpeachable instance of this “sophistication” in the ignominious role played by the Yoruba delegation to Obasanjo’s dubious National Political Reform Conference, in regard to the push for upward review of the derivation formula of revenue allocation. Recall also that two Alliance for Democracy governors of Oyo and Osun states, prior to the 2003 s/election, had joined the northern Biafranigerian governor’s in a law suite that sought to oppose “the onshore/offshore dichotomy abrogation act”. So much, for “sophisticated” noise of true, fiscal federalism.
The fact of the matter is that the Yoruba, as a result of their “shofistication” as exemplified above, have finally succeeded in destroying whatever iota of residual credibility/trustworthiness they may have had in the rest of southern Biafranigeria, especially in the South-south zone. Obasanjo’s presidential crudity, arbitrariness and scheming have not helped matters in this regard. He has set so many bad precedents that whoever succeeds him, assuming there is still something called Biafranigeria as from May, 2007, will have an open season in governmental absolutism. This is not to mention that Obasanjo’s conduct has created so many enemies for the Yoruba, within the entire Biafranigerian polity.
It is, in fact, the Yoruba who have a lot to worry about, and who should brace up for the moment of truth when the animal, called man, Obasanjo, retires to his farm, come May, 2007. We will be watching to see what “shofisticated” gimmicks the Yoruba will come up with besides their resumption of make-believe shouts of true, fiscal federalism, and the retrieval, from their archives, of the blue print for their pretended Oduduwa republic. Need I remind you that Afenifere as well as Alliance for Democracy is in shambles, already in very deep trouble?
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igeria’s situation indeed presents a confusion that conjures all sorts of restless thoughts, and deep analysis within me. In a way, the conditions defy logic. Imagine that the country is known to possess rich natural/human resource-base, which includes solid minerals, motivated and talented people as well as fertile arable land mass. The mother of all natural resources, crude oil is also well in abundance and currently going at a significantly high price in the global market. None of these pre-requisites have guaranteed better life for the populace.
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Chima Njoku: I totally agree with you here. The resources from oil should be distributed in such a way that average citizen on the street takes some benefit from it. But at the same time, Chima, oil riches is definitely not enough. We need more to draw our citizens out of poverty. We need manufacturing base. We need to spend enormous amount of our resources to develop reliable power base. We can't have sustainable development without constant and reliable electricity. Nigerians still get by on less than $1 a day according to the UN. That is poor and oil alone wont help us. The test for us as Nigerians, is to employ our collective energy and find a way out of the malaise. Don't forget, the super 8 countries are essentially, except for one, oil consumers and they are still richer than us.
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What can I say...Obasanjo has failed the nation in many ways but to heap the blame only on him and his tribe is sacriligious. In his admnistration you have Soludo, Honorable Ministers of Foreign Affairs, Education, DGS,countless Special Advisers from the East. I am not sure anybody in Nigeria is blaming their tribes for the malaise in the country.
As for your opening quote and the rest of your post, I can see why Igbos are not sophisticated! You need to do more research on Anthropology. You will find that most peoples of the world set themselves apart in the ways they present their origins and existence. The Hebrews are the chosen, the first human created by God Himself at the end of a six day of creation. The Igbos have found that they descended from the Hebrews. They fancy themslevs the Jews of Africa! I 'm certainly not shocked that you would accept the Hebrew connection with the Igbos but cant understand Yoruba's connection with Oduduwa descent from heaven.
As for Obasanjo's sham National Political Reform conference, see how you quickly forget that Ojukwu wanted to be part of it and was disappointed when he was not called. Yes, he said it openly and was widely carried in the dailies. So if Obasanjo is fooling Nigerians, Ojukwu is not excluded.
As for what life holds for yoruba in post Obasanjo era, surely Mr.CHEI, you are a Nigerian, you know Yoruba always find a way to be relevant in any situation. When an Igbo presidency becomes a reality, and it is a matter of time you guys just have to learn to wait your turn, you will find that yoruba will also play a major role in the emerging administration. If you learn anything in Nigeria, please make sure it is the ability of yoruba to be always relevant without even trying.
By the way, calling Obasanjo an animal is disrespectful. This is the man who accepted your surrender after your defeat! Show some respect to your elders who prostrated before him (Obasanjo) and handed over their lives to him for protection.
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CHEI: "OBJ not equal to all yoruba but at the same time, CHEI! equal to all Igbos. The world according to this ESU guy or gal."
Chei, you need to show some class. It is fraudulent to misapply, misreport, mischaracterize someone's statement for your own twisted benefit. Show that superior Igbo blood we hear so much about. If you cant make your case with sheer intelligence, Chei, keep your peace.
The name is KESU. K E S U. It is not that hard, say it to yourself a couple of times and write it down 100 times so you can get it. Oh Lord, what am I dealing with here?! Is this the future of Biafra? God help them.
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quote:The name is KESU. K E S U. It is not that hard, say it to yourself a couple of times and write it down 100 times so you can get it.
quote:Oh sorry, it is Ednut...a nut.
All from the ESU guy or gal.
Nna, I bu Esu and hard better get use to it buddy. You and your contradictions all over the place. By the way, I am not a Biafran ESU and stick to the issues.
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Ednut, kindly remind me of the issue, since you know it so well and dont forget to include the contradictions in it. I will wait up for this. It should be interesting.
As for the name: If it suits your ego to give me another name, by all means, go for it. I have been called other names since I came to this site.
Wow, you are not a Biafran! Now that is good news, lets see if we can engage in some objective discussion..send your post.
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Yet another facet of Yoruba "shofistication". I confess, these people are really "shofisticated".
NEWS Friday, July 28, 2006
Funsho Williams assasinated By Farotimi Oluwole, Biodun Fanoro, Blessing Eghagha, Idowu Ajanaku, Ayoyinka Olagoke and Onyedika Agbedo (Lagos) and Charles Coffie Gyamfi (Abeokuta)
ANOTHER gruesome killing raised the political temperature in Lagos yesterday.
Third time aspirant to the state's governorship seat, and Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) chieftain, Engineer Funsho Williams, lost the desire to achieve his dream to cold-blooded murder. He was brutally strangled to death at his 184B Corporation Drive home in Dolphin Estate, Ikoyi, Lagos. His wife and children were said to have travelled to London last week.
The death has added to the long list of curious murders in Nigeria since the return of civil rule in 1999.
The assailants left no doubt that their mission was to take the life of the prominent engineer and politician in a most violent manner. They tied his legs and hands, before strangling him in his bedroom. He was also stabbed several times, according to his family members.
It was learnt that Williams had arrived from a political rally at about 3.00 a.m. yesterday before retiring to his bedroom.
Sources said that the deceased could have been murdered between 6.00 a.m. and 10 a.m. It was also learnt that when his cook wanted to go in and invite him for his breakfast, she was driven back by one of his political campaign members who said that the late politician was dressing and would not be able to see her.
Another member of the family, amidst tears, informed The Guardian that the assailants never gave their victim any opportunity although he pleaded with them for mercy.
It was learnt that seven people, including four policemen, one political aide, two security details and his cook in the house have been arrested by the police.
Another confirmed to our reporter that as at the time the assailants entered Williams' bedroom, none of the four mobile policemen guarding him was around.
This, according to sympathisers, is reminiscent of the way the former Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Chief Bola Ige (SAN), was assassinated in 2002.
Thousands of his supporters and party loyalists thronged the house, wailing and raining curses on the suspected assassins. Some of the supporters, who wore the deceased's T-shirts, ran to the house from two rallies that the late Williams was billed to address at the Lagos Island, and Eti-Osa areas of the state. He had been attacked at the weekend at a rally in Ikorodu, another area of the state.
Attempts by reporters to gain entrance into the house were stopped by policemen who said that they were carrying out forensic tests on the body.
A sympathiser, who gave his name as Olanrewaju Sarumi, said: "The state chairman of the PDP celebrated his birthday on Wednesday after which he came home and had a meeting with his campaign organisation until about 2.00 a.m. before going to bed."
The late Williams decamped from the Alliance for Democracy (AD) to the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) after losing the AD's governorship ticket to Senator Bola Ahmed Tinubu in the 1999 election.
He was the PDP's governorship candidate in 2003 and lost again to Tinubu and was still gunning for the post before the violent murder yesterday.
The Deputy South National Chairman of the PDP, Chief Olabode George, yesterday ordered the cancellation of the party's political rally slated for Eti Osa Local Council.
George also summoned an emergency meeting of the party's chieftains to fashion out the next line of action.
The Inspector-General of Police, Mr. Sunday Ehindero, flew in from Abuja yesterday afternoon at about 3.00 p.m. With the Lagos State Commissioner of Police (CP), Emmanuel Adebayo, Ehindero joined other sympathisers who trooped to the house of the deceased.
There had been attacks and counter-attacks by supporters of PDP governorship aspirants at Badagry, Ikorodu and Kosofe recently.
Williams joined politics after his career in state's civil service in the 90s. He was a staunch member and the governorship aspirant in the defunct United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP).
As at 3.00 p.m. yesterday afternoon, the Dolphin Estate home of the late PDP chieftain had been sealed by heavily armed mobile policemen.
Police vehicles were parked at strategic points, keeping at bay vehicles that usually passed through the estate. Cars formed a long queue along the usually busy Osborne road. The atmosphere that pervaded the entire compound and the adjoining streets leading to the house was that of shock, apprehension and subdued anger.
Delta State Governor James Ibori is saddened by this dastardly act which, he said, was unacceptable. He called security agencies to track down the perpetrators. He noted that Nigerians must be vigilant as "we get into an election year."
The Ogun State Governor, Otunba Gbenga Daniel, described Williams' death as a devastating blow to Nigeria's democracy.
Daniel, who said the news was broken to him at an official engagement, described the act as an extremely dangerous dimension to security of lives in the country.
The governor, in a statement signed on his behalf by his Senior Assistant on Information and Strategy, Mr. Sina Ogunbambo, described the deceased as a perfect gentleman, a refined politician an accomplished technocrat, and an ardent believer in the cause of democracy.
He said: "The deceased was a dogged fighter in his noble aspiration to become the Governor of Lagos State."
Daniel tasked the security agencies not to leave any stone unturned in unmasking those behind the brutal murder.
He commiserated with President Olusegun Obasanjo, the bereaved family and people of Lagos State.
An AD legislator from Lagos State, Senator Tokunbo Afikuyomi, said that the manner of killing was a pointer to the fact that the PDP was full of dangerous politicians.
"Today, the dark veil of gloom has again been drawn over the Nigerian polity with the mindless assassination this morning of a PDP gubernatorial aspirant, Engineer Funsho Williams, at his Ikoyi residence in Lagos", Afikuyomi declared in a press statement.
He continued: "I write on behalf of the leaders and people of the Lagos West Senatorial District to express our condolences to the families of the deceased, whose life was perhaps an epitome of decency and restraint in the art of political engagements."
Expressing dismay at the murder, the Senator said: "It is still indiscernible why anyone or group would imagine and visit such violent act on a man who played politics with dignity and respect for the dissenting views of others. Today, the agents of death within the PDP have vindicated Nobel Laureate, Prof. Wole Soyinka that the party is indeed nothing but 'a nest of killers'.
Afikuyomi added: "I respectfully demand that the Inspector General of Police, Mr. Sunday Ehindero will honour the soul of the murdered politician by speedily tracking down his killers and bring them to justice rather than populate the data base of unresolved political assassinations with yet the murder of Engineer Funsho Williams.
"Nigerians have not forgotten the many unanswered questions still raised by the brutal assassinations of the late Justice Minister, Chief Bola Ige, Aminosari Dikkibo, Harry Marshall, the Anambra State NBA Chairman, the Kogi State PDP Chairman and other notable citizens during the ignoble reign of the PDP."
The Oyo State government reacted in a similar manner. A statement by the special adviser to the state governor, Mr. Diran Odeyemi, described Williams as "an enigma and a political icon whose horizon was cut short by evil people."
Odeyemi said that the governor, Adebayo Alao-Akala called on security operatives to ensure that "the planners and executors of Engineer Williams are unmasked."
The governor was further quoted as calling for an end to political killings.
"There is need to put political killings to a permanent stop or else, Nigeria politics will remain a dirty game where decent men and women will not like to participate" Alao-Akala observed.
He prayed to God to grant the late Williams eternal rest and forgive him all his sins.
Governor James Ibori of Delta State is greatly saddened on this ecstacely act. This is unacceptable. He called on all security agencies to do everything they can to track down the perpetrators.
He said that Nigerians must be vigilant as we get into the election year.
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