It appears that you don't even need Ochiwar to make sense before you throw your support behind him. I don't see how any sensible person could read what I wrote and issue the following infantile garbage in response:
quote:AJ, I bow for this your reasonig. Are you talking about the ford model T of 1908? You are off the mark by only about 70 years. The Ford model T was already cheaply in mass production in 1970´s ??? LOL!! AJ you have made my day. --- Ochiwar
Now, I know that you hero-worship this Yoruba tribalist because addy told you to do so. Nwokem, wepu aka enwe n'ofe....
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Thank you for taking yet another time to clear the air. Whereas I see Dr. Beko differently from others in OPC who may in fact be the violent engine of that organ, I’ll not fail to remind us that just as we attempt to define and present every member of their assembly as a violent and no good scanvenger who wants to drink from whence he did not labor yet we get rattled each time they cast MASSOB as full of terrorists whose agenda is to destabilize nigeria (and we know how untrue this bizarre position is); Biafra as a secessionist ungrateful attempt by the Igbo; and Ojukwu as an opportunistic warlord who wants to be the nigerian president yet want Biafra all at one time. Are these not as we can see a matter of semantics convenience? From what Mazi OU provided the other day I saw that Beko contrary to how I viewed him all along had the interest of his Yoroba people first and foremost which should not automatically earn him the ‘death’ penalty as people are calling for here. Maybe I’m not being articulate enough or kwa nu people just don’t want to hear about the goodness of certain folks from other zones, that will be sad. This, my brothers, is where I stand for now.
AJ, throughout the duration of this unfortunate debate thus far I've resisted the temptation to import rudeness and insults into it which you and your cabal have liberally done. I never said I’m worshipping anyone did I? My reference to Ochi’s reply to yours was solely based on his deflection of your Model T Ford example which ceased to be many, many, many years before Mrs Kuti’s fete. Remember I’m still IGBO ONE. Talk to me nwoke m without any attempt to insult. Please.
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quote:Originally posted by MeBiafran: My reference to Ochi’s reply to yours was solely based on his deflection of your Model T Ford example which ceased to be many, many, many years before Mrs Kuti’s fete. Remember I’m still IGBO ONE. Talk to me nwoke m without any attempt to insult. Please.
MeB:
If Ochiwar did not understand what he read, he should have said so. I would have been glad to put it in a form that he could understand.
The response from Ochiwar makes no sense at all. Your support of it, even with respect to the Model T reference, makes even less sense. Where did you and Ochiwar get the idea that the Model T was in production in the 1970s? Even if it were, are you two suggesting that it was in the 1970s that Funmilayo Kuti drove the car that made her the "first woman to drive a car?" Were there not thousands of Igbo women who drove cars in the forties, fifties, and sixties?
Even if the Model T was no longer in production at the time the Yoruba madam drove a car, was the Model T not replaced by numerous other mass-produced cars, such that there were millions of mass-produced cars at the time Mrs. Kuti drove a car, making it shameful that the first Nigerian woman to drive a car was a woman who was alive in the 1970s?
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quote: Thank you for taking yet another time to clear the air. Whereas I see Dr. Beko differently from others in OPC who may in fact be the violent engine of that organ, I’ll not fail to remind us that just as we attempt to define and present every member of their assembly as a violent and no good scanvenger who wants to drink from whence he did not labor yet we get rattled each time they cast MASSOB as full of terrorists whose agenda is to destabilize nigeria (and we know how untrue this bizarre position is); Biafra as a secessionist ungrateful attempt by the Igbo; and Ojukwu as an opportunistic warlord who wants to be the nigerian president yet want Biafra all at one time. Are these not as we can see a matter of semantics convenience? From what Mazi OU provided the other day I saw that Beko contrary to how I viewed him all along had the interest of his Yoroba people first and foremost which should not automatically earn him the ‘death’ penalty as people are calling for here. Maybe I’m not being articulate enough or kwa nu people just don’t want to hear about the goodness of certain folks from other zones, that will be sad. This, my brothers, is where I stand for now.
MeB
Mazi, what you are saying here can be likened to someone who says “I belong to the Nazi party but I abhor their tactics”. If you belong to an organization implicitly you approve of their actions, otherwise an honorable person would quit such an organization. My point though is I see no parallel between the OPC and MASSOB because both were conceived for different reasons. OPC came along as a result of Yoruba frustration at their denial of the leadership of what you already called a diseased entity, on the other hand MASSOB clearly states that it wants nothing to do with Nigeria including it’s leadership. I fail to see how any reasonable person can equate both positions.
I can stretch your argument to include the ACF because after all they are fighting the northern agenda and should be seen as comrades in the struggle against Abuja. We will then lose our right to criticize the Yandaba, Hisbah and Almajiri while equating the likes of Sunday Awoniyi and Umaru Dikko with Odumegwu Ojukwu, after all they are fighting for their people.
I never came across any information about Igbo/MASSOB youths harassing Yoruba or Hausa traders like the OPC has been known to do, and I think it is unfair on then to draw that parallel. This argument never arose with a man like Fela because we all know where he stood on issues whether he burnt his brain cells or not and despite being a “mere” musician. We should not be so willing to walk down the path of self immolation in other to be seen as fair, because what we seek is just in the eyes of the fair minded.
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When you dine with the devil, carry a long spoon. In sum, that is the way to deal with the yoroba elite without exception. There has never been a straight line connecting two points in yoroba calculations of the nigerian math. It's all about "shofisticated, best educated" threachery to loot nigerian resources at the expense of others.
The yoroba sees himself as doing a favor to an Igbo resident of Lagos, no matter how long the Igbo has lived in that part of one-nigeria. How can you build a common country with people who think that way?
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AJ, LOL, you are not even gratefull that someone actually managed to reply to that rubbish you posted? This your model T goof did not actually deserve a reply, but I decided to humor you. I can see that you are one of those who attempt to disguise their goof by agression.
quote:Where did you and Ochiwar get the idea that the Model T was in production in the 1970s?--AJ
Well dear all credit goes to you as the originator of the idea
quote:The Funmilayo Kuti woman was still alive in the 1970s ...Was the Model T not already cheaply in mass production at that time?--AJ posted February 16, 2006 12:05 PM ??
LOL! It tears me up anytime i read this LOL!
quote: Even if the Model T was no longer in production at the time the Yoruba madam drove a car, was the Model T not replaced by numerous other mass-produced cars, such that there were millions of mass-produced cars at the time--AJ
Ah so you now agree the for model T was way before Mrs Kuti. Besides that your argument is beside the point. If there where millions of mass produced cars in 1970`s then they are certainly billions of mass produced cars right now in this millenium, still, they are regarded as a sign of wealth because the average common nigerian can not afford one, how much more so in 1970`s?. If mass production of cars has made cars to stop being a status symbol and previlege of the rich, then how come every Nigerian does not own one of your model T`s or other mass produced car?
quote: The response from Ochiwar makes no sense at all...AJ
Well try reading between the lines, or if all else fails, beg someone to explain it to you.
BTW, you are talking about "mass production of cars" as if it is something that is being produced in every backyard in Nigeria, like pure water. Are these cars not all produced with hard currency and ultimately imported into Africa from Europe and Japan? Then(during Mrs.Kuti`s time) even more so than now? Ok I see, it is a sign of how backward Nigeria is. But if nigeria was and is so backward and one woman was able to own and/or drive private Motor car as the first in that backward country, then would that woman not be considered rich? Certainly she would not have been poor to be exposed to such advanced technology in such a backward age and country?
I caution you that when you write on this board, you should make allowance for child logic students like Ochiwarlord. He is notorious for lacking a good grasp of the English Language. This forum is full of debates resulting from that particular problem. Go and ask Dr. B and others.
BNW People:
Here is what AJ wrote:
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quote:Originally posted by Apple Juice: The Funmilayo Kuti woman was still alive in the 1970s to get thrown out of the window of the Kakakuta Republic by Obasanjo's thugs. If it is true that Mrs. Kuti was the first Nigerian woman to drive a car, it is a sign that Nigeria is a backward country; it is not a sign that her family was wealthy. For all we know, the car she was driving could have belonged to one of the colonialists, and even if it belonged to her family, a car at the time she could have driven one, unless it was a Rolls-Royce Phantom, was not a symbol of wealth. Was the Model T not already cheaply in mass production at that time?
But, here is how the kwashiokor bird flu brain of Ochiwarlord interpreted it:
quote:The Funmilayo Kuti woman was still alive in the 1970s ...Was the Model T not already cheaply in mass production at that time?--AJ posted February 16, 2006 12:05 PM ??
Somebody needs to go back to grade school to learn the uses of punctuation marks, especially "comma" and "period," or is it "full stop."
Chieneke mei! NdiumuBiafra have a problem with illiteracy.
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English/Islamic Teacher Daud, I knew you would be slow as usuall to see the point. i will bear with you again.
quote: Was the Model T not already cheaply in mass production at that time?
As you can see the person who made this statement was reffering to a time frame with his "at that time". What time was he reffering to? obviously Mrs Kuti´s lifetime specifically the 1970`s as this is the only time frame he mentions in his post. Now we all know it is absurd to say that the ford model T was " already cheaply in mass production at that time?" with the time frame of 1970`s or Mrs Kuti`s life span as an active driver in context. What does this have to do with comma and fullstop? AJ goofed and you just steped into it. For you information Daud, the Ford T was produced from 1908 or thereabouts. Maybe someone needs to go back to school and brush up on his general knowledge?
Anyway the point which AJ was trying to make with his ford T example is that during mrs kuti`s time, car was not a previlege of the wealthy but rather affordable by every one because the ford t was being mass produced. Is that reality?
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quote:As you can see the person who made this statement was reffering to a time frame with his "at that time". What time was he reffering to? obviously Mrs Kuti´s lifetime specifically the 1970`s as this is the only time frame he mentions in his post.
You really have got to start reading beyond the grade school level. In the 1970s, Mrs. Kuti was already a very old woman, a widow. I think she died the same period, after living a full life, even though she was obviously affected by the Kalakuta Republic events.
You are hopelessly incorrect when you state that the 1970s is the only time frame that AJ mentioned in his post.
Were you incapable of comprehending the portion of AJ's post that reads:
quote:For all we know, the car she was driving could have belonged to one of the colonialists, and even if it belonged to her family, a car at the time she could have driven one, unless it was a Rolls-Royce Phantom, was not a symbol of wealth.
Which colonialists were you thinking about in the 1970s? If any woman drove a car in the 1970s, could such a woman be said to be the first Nigerian woman to drive a car? For that matter, I doubt that grandma Kuti could have driven anything in the 1970s, as old and frail as she was at that time.
AJ wrote:
quote:a car at the time she could have driven one, unless it was a Rolls-Royce Phantom, was not a symbol of wealth. --- AJ
You really want us to believe that the time frame implicated in the above quote is the 1970s?
Man, go and learn to read properly!
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Not many women drove cars even in the sixties and seventies when my own mother started to drive as this was primarily male dominated arena just wanted to get this one out real fast because it is a major, major distraction. It's about Beko. AJ please note. LOL.
Nwa nne m chiboy,
How can I not know that what some members of OPC has done to our people particularly in Lagos can by no less means be waved off as no big thing? Yet I’m beginning to form the view that about time these clueless brothers who invest and keep investing outside Igboland start to wind down and follow the example of Ibeato Group to develop their own. Enough said. Back on the main attraction, is there any document that could indict the departed doctor just like the paper trail that followed saddam and other bad dudes? Before we forget, let’s keep in mind that Mazi the Right Honorable Uche Chukwumereiji is a member of PDP (nazi party?) yet have stayed above board. Hasn’t he? Does his continuous stay in that killer party remove from his accomplishments and good virtue? On the front/home page of our great BNW, there the latest display of virtue of this great Igbo son, Mazi Chukwumereiji could be found. My good brother, not everyone who was a member of saddam’s baath party for example was evil, not all NPN members welcomed the shagari shenanigans and not all members of the Republican Party are bad as we have very dangerous Democrats also. What happens is that the majority who are dangerous drown out the rest/ few good ones in their respective parties.
Of all the many arguments against Dr. Beko, only Mazi Ohafia have tried to pin him to anything anti Igbo yet what he presented was not compelling to the point of calling this man Igbo hater. He may have been a regional hero, he may have said some dumb regarding MASSOB, but Igbo hater? I don’t think so that’s stretching it too thin, brothers. The chiboy I’ve come to know as an astute researcher with the job you did elsewhere on another thread which finally with no time won me over after the preponderance of the link convinced those of us who were on the other side of the divide is yet to connect Beko with anything to warrant the lynching of the man. During the debate on that thread which you opened, your point was overwhelmingly made with excerpts and links that made it so easy for some of us to agree with you. Hope you know what I’m digging at? So, until convincing comments that would show the world how ‘devilish’ the doctor was I’ll continue to vigorously maintain my position that he does not deserve what is being attributed to him. Every person that made a minor uncharitable comment towards Ndiigbo should not be seen as evil as I’m almost sure that Wole Soyinka whom most of us honor at some point may have said some stupid and perhaps Gani too about Ndiigbo or any other group yet a good number of us stand solidly with them. My record here can attest to the fact as I already highlighted that I’ve no problems submitting to a superior argument but I’ve to be swayed by the preponderance of the points made. For now, what have been given is not nearly enough for me to say the man was inherently bad towards our people.
Since a good number of us here have at one point or other said things that are harsh or unflattering towards the Yoroba, Awusa and so on, does it put us in the same category as Dr. Beko, are we haters? I know I’m not I just speak the truth and some see it as hateful. Now, that’s the hit! Check this out, one of my heroes Mazi Samuel Onunaka Mbakwe even disappointed some of us before his call to glory when he showed tacit support for the abacha YEAA pompon in ’98. At the time, I met him at Nicon Noga and almost didn’t want to say hello but my aunty convinced me and I accepted her explanation for why our venerable governor was there which out of respect for his kids, I’ll not repeat here. People, I don’t think it is too cumbersome to provide information on this subject that could overpower folks like me to support what is being said about this man, Beko. It will be nice to give us things to hold on to that’s the way it is done. Having said that, my position on this raging debate will in no way present a hindrance to me to join my brothers to deal a decisive blow on any who still wants the end of the Igbo should the need arise and I’m confident enough to say you will agree with me. We can say we agree on 95 or more percent of things that relates to our people and if we disagree on 2 percent and abstain from the other 3 does that not tell us something that we’re fighting the same cause? Brothers, through out these exchanges I’ve no reason to feel “bad belly” towards any of you particularly OU & chiboy who have earned their wings and dues right here on BNW. Just wanted you guys to know this. In ending, anyone is free to answer this nagging question, what was Dr. Beko’s stance towards the good people of Igbo prior to 1999 when our people foolishly gave assent to obasanjo’s candidacy whom the ENTIRE Yoroba people including the doctor fiercely rejected? Could this then be his anger if you call it that why he made comments that was bitter to some today? Ekele m unu ooo!!
quote: But, here is how the kwashiokor bird flu brain of Ochiwarlord interpreted it. – daud
lololol! Sorry folks, had to laugh on this one and still laughing. Lol. Dude, stop it! But are you in support that the Kutis were mendicants at the time in question according to AJ? Ochi, that was a hit on you, man.
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I have been drifting in and out of this thread hoping some of the issues I raised would be answered.
Beko was never on record (even as a token gesture) as apologising or expressing regret on the illegal killing of defenceless Igbo in Yoroba land. Could his admirers give us the mathematical worth of his life/death compared to the Igbo that were wasted in Yoroba land?.
I don't mind being made out as speaking ill of the dead but fact of the matter is Beko was very badly compromised in life. To put him in the league of anti-corruption activists after the Tinubu saga is making a "mockery of our struggle".
In a BNW entry Posted by Amadi O. (Advocate # 335) on May 06, 2003 11:26 PM, Chike Ofili wrote under the caption: Between Yoruba Press and voice of criticism :
quote: And when human right fighters and Chief Gani Fawehinmi rose to complete the tribal tripod of our nation’s political shame of Alhaji Salisu Buhari, Chief Evans Ewerem and Bola Tinubu’s certificate forgeries, Gani was physically mobbed to give up the legal case till he had to flee to the Police station for safety. The beautiful thing however is that this helped us to understand as a nation, the way the Yoruba mind works – even that of their human right activists. Dr. Beko Kuti, hitherto a celebrated human right activist, in his defense of Governor Bola Tinubu a tribesman, went on a press war against Gani the nationalist. Beko has since gone under as a result. He was unmasked beyond recovery.
quote:BOLA AHMED TINUBU MUST RESIGN NOW Human Rights Monitor, after a critical review of the allegations of perjury and falsification of documents leveled against Bola Ahmed Tinubu and the insults being heaped on imaginary enemies by Bola Ahmed Tinubu’s town criers believes that it is in the national interest to speak up. Human Rights Monitor had thought that Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the supposed Governor of Lagos, would quickly respond to the allegations and clear the air regarding the qualifications he claimed to have obtained and the discrepancies in his age declaration.
Rather than do this the Governor and his close aides and associates have been engaged in shadow boxing and name calling, blaming the travails of the Governor on imaginary enemies trying to prevent him from doing the job for which the people of Lagos State elected him.
Human Rights Monitor is surprised that leading news organizations, the Alliance for Democracy and some members of the Human Rights Community are engaged in an unconscionable attempt at suppressing the disclosures regarding the allegations of perjury and falsification of documents. The Human Rights Community must be careful about its approach to the allegations against Governor Bola Ahmed Tinubu of Lagos State. The Human Rights Community must at all times uphold the same standards of equity, fairness, and justice that saw it through the period of military dictatorship in Nigeria. It is these standards that endeared the human rights community to the Nigerian people and assured it the moral strength and authority to speak authoritatively against the continuation of the military in government.
At no time during this period did the human rights community make a pact that we cannot condemn infractions of the law against any member of the human rights community no matter how highly placed such a person may be in the hierarchy of authority. We must at all times use the same standards of probity and accountability for conservative and progressive elements. The same standards must be used for people from the North, the South and the East of the country. The human rights community will definitely lose the respect of the Nigerian people the moment we start applying double standards in the presentation or prescription of issues. This is why it is important for the Nigerian human rights community to speak up on the allegations against the Governor of Lagos State.
Human Rights Monitor also believes that the Governor, his aides, acolytes and town criers are making a big mistake by hiding under the provisions of Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. The section restricts legal proceedings against a person holding the office of Governor during his or her period of office. Human Rights Monitor is of the view that the section does not apply to the Governor of Lagos State since the issue in contention is his qualification to hold the office of Governor of Lagos State.
The overwhelming evidence of falsification and perjury against the Bola Ahmed Tinubu (the supposed Governor of Lagos State) goes to show that he was not qualified to contest for the office of the Governor of Lagos State in the first place. Having so contested the elections while under the banner of alleged criminality, his election is null and void and of no effect and he cannot rely on the immunity granted to duly elected Governors as a shield from prosecution. The Police must therefore arrest and interrogate Bola Ahmed Tinubu.
The office of the Attorney General of the Federation must also speak up on the allegations leveled against Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The Attorney General of the Federation and that of Lagos State must demonstrate unequivocally that they are the Chief Law Officers of the Federation and Lagos State by initiating criminal proceedings against Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The Attorney General of the Federation must shed his pastoral toga and perform the functions for which he was appointed. His performance in the case of the former Speaker of the House of Representatives was abysmal and the Nigerian people cannot tolerate another situation where our Chief Law Officers will be shielding those with serious criminal cases to answer.
The Lagos State House of Assembly that is constitutionally invested with the powers of removing a fraudulent Chief Executive is also compromised and cannot be expected to discharge its constitutional functions without fear or favor. The same thing goes for the Alliance for Democracy that is fervently praying that the allegations against Bola Ahmed Tinubu will go away or disappear having adopted a puritanical stance in respect of less controversial matters in the past. They are therefore not the best place to go in search of justice.
Human Rights Monitor calls on the Nigerian Human Rights Community to take a principled position in respect of the grave allegations leveled against Bola Ahmed Tinubu. The Human Rights Community must assist the Police, the office of the Attorney General of the Federation and that of Lagos State and the State Security Service in apprehending Bola Ahmed Tinubu if he refuses to voluntarily withdraw from government house. That will only be the path of honor for the human rights community and that will be the only way the Nigerian people will be sure that ethnic and other parochial prejudices do not color our struggles.
The Federal Government must also take a position on the grave allegations leveled against Bola Ahmed Tinubu. They have the benefit of security information and they ought to know by now that the allegations against Bola Ahmed Tinubu are overwhelming and it is against the spirit and letter of the constitution to still allow him to occupy the seat of Governor of Lagos State. The fight against corruption embarked upon by the present regime will come to nothing if it cannot muster the political will to deal with clear and uncomplicated issues of corruption by public officers. The Federal Government can assist the Governor by making his exit less painful rather than burying its head in the mud and pretending that nothing is amiss.
Festus Okoye Esq
Executive Director
Human Rights Monitor
September 22, 1999
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By Pat Utomi HE did not have a frame that would frighten Goliath. A David he was in size, but he never took on an imperial Dravidian cant, in expression. Yes he served the Nigeria people with courage, a great heart of compassion and amazing conviction. He was Beko Ransome-Kuti, medical doctor and soldier for justice. When his death was announced recently, the impression that was etched unto my consciousness was not from our numerous meetings. It was not even of our last meeting just before Christmas as we met to discuss budget monitoring in Nigeria. The image that stayed fixed in my inner gaze was of a season of despair and the great resistance in 1993/94.
We had just founded the Concerned Professionals (CP) to anchor 'The Resistance'. Our head cell for CP used to meet on Norman Williams in South West, Ikoyi, so close to the erstwhile seat of power, the Dodan Barracks. In those dark days much counsel went out to members of our group about personal security and how to move around.
It was, therefore, a matter of great amazement when before one night time meeting called to network with other "Freedom Fighters" we saw Dr Beko Ransome-Kuti arriving from our lookout spot upstairs. He violated every code of the security drill. He came alone, driving himself in that modest automobile. It was an immediate lesson in courage and commitment.
As I reflected on those moments I could not but think of that admonition to fear not those who can harm the body but can do nothing to the soul. You wonder if the trouble with Nigeria is not that there are too many of us who fear those who can destroy the body and are not the one who can deal with the soul. But, as Adams Oshiomhole, that other noted freedom fighter, pointed out on February 6 at the CVL annual lecture, some of us are so afraid to die that we have allowed conditions that have inadvertently empowered some to run our lives in ways that are systematically killing us. One other friend of mine put it more graphically. Because we are so afraid to die we have unwittingly conspired to encourage a genocide in which we and our children are the victims and potential victims, the ultimate penny wise, pound foolish nightmare. Beko Ransome-Kuti was not of the clan of those guilty by acquiescence. He never feared to stand up for what he believed in.
Courage, do not be afraid, John Paul II repeated often through his eventful papacy. In many ways Beko Ransome-Kuti reminds us of those words of exhortation. It is a time not to be afraid to do the right thing in Nigeria. Making whatever sacrifice we must make to achieve the Nigeria of our dreams; rapid economic growth; social harmony; respect around the world and a citizenry with the right work ethic and respectful of the dignity of the human person is what we must be focused on if we are to do justice to the memory of Dr Beko Ransome-Kuti.
The appropriate epitaph to this titan, in a gentle frame should be much like the quote from Victor Hugo which another champion of our nation building struggles sent to me by cell phone text at a recent anniversary of my birth. It reads: "There is only one power, conscience in the service of justice, and there is only oneglory, genius in the service of truth". This is what he lived .
In a sense his passing marks a closing stage in the times of the originals - the Kutis, their fighting spirit and the essence of civil society. Associational life needs leaders if the people are to be shielded from the corrosive effects of the direct impact of power in the state, any state but, especially if it is the state in post colonial Africa. The Kutis, and this particular Kuti, gave special colour to associational life and brought meaning to the existence of many who are helpless in the face of power . Surely Nigeria will miss this soft spoken but strong willed man who held up the legacy of protest as a path to progress, a legacy inspired by his mother and given special meaning by his late brother, Fela Anikulapo-Kuti. You can say regarding a man like this, death where is your sting? We will miss him, but we must keep his candle lit and keep passing it on, especially as we know that a candle loses nothing when it lights another candle. So let the light shine and scatter the darkness over this land. Farewell freedom fighter .
Prof Utomi is of the LBS, Pan African University.
----- freedom fighter .... How i wish anybody can say this about characters like ohafia udumeze. shame!
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Ednut, this is what you wrote about me; "You will say anything just so that the likes of addy and bababoyz will accept you in their mist." And guess what, you just confirmed my suspicion that you're a small boy. For you to get away with your juvenile drool you should have convinced the forumites about the untruthfulness in what I said that you reproduced thus:
quote: -------------------------------------------------I use myself as an example, earlier in our sometimes fierce debate a lot of non-Igbo folks saw me as “hateful, tribal, rude, ignorant” ...MeBiafra -------------------------------------------------
Did I not receive hate mails? Despite the bull about being indominateable some tag on themselves, I believe I am the real deal, the WARRIOR for catching flakes from both Igbo, Yoroba awusa, bini and all, can you say the same about you? I bet you have no clue how many brothers whom I respect that have INSULTED me here and continued to even when it is uncalled for which supports the outside opinion that those like you make it very IMPOSSIBLE for the Igbo to move ahead. You continued by asking; "And now you want to make up for it?" The question you should answer is where were your funky ass when I was being insulted for telling the truth regardless of whose ox was destroyed? I can't remember you calling for cessation of the hostility I endured at the time still you were audacious with the nonsense you dropped? Now for your information, I do not pander to anyone, none son. My opinion on philip emagwali is there to support this, what I had to say about Ojukwu when he threw common sense out to fight with Okorie through whose grace his presidential run was possible is there also to give credence to my position that I do not need to do what you accused me of in your childish moment. I guess you're ticked off as one of those I exposed as crying their hearts out for orji just to collect a little handout? Didn't you claim to be working in an academic environment yet you failed woefully to tear apart my presentation on DR. BEKO KUTI who in fact may have been a better man than your thieving uncle, james the asshole nwobodo? Going back to your baby inference who will you accuse me of pandering to based on my numerous pro Igbo posts? Academics answer questions and there are many in here that remain elusive to you.
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