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They have come again. There has been killing and looting over Danish depictions of Mohammed. Christians, children, pregnant women and a priest have been massacred by moslems in Northern Nigeria. Numerous churches set abaze.

I, for one, I have had enough of these people. What has fellow innocent Nigerians got to do with Danish cartoons?

Who is a Nigerian in Nigeria?

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The cartoon was not published in Nigeria. It is unlikely that most Christians in Maidugiri or Katsina have seen the cartoon. The Christian Association of Nigeria condemned the publication of the cartoons in the strongest terms.
Inspite of all that, the Northern Nigerian moslems have chosen to massacre these innocent people and raze their churches and businesses. It goes to show we don't have much in common with these violent northerners. In no time, Daud will provide justification for this shameful act of barbarism in the name of religion. Surely, a mohammed that allows these murders in his name is no better than the murderers who claim to fight for him.

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Acts of barbarism should never be justified, provided that the "barbarism" nomenclature is correctly applied. I don't have complete information about the events in question. Rick failed to link to any reliable information on these events.

My concern for now is that CSE fails to appreciate the hospitality of non-Christian communities in Nigeria who allow Churches to sprout and flourish in their locale. Blame for these ugly events must ultimately be laid at the feet of the irresponsible media actors who set them in motion by resorting to blasphemy against the religion of their opponents.

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Nigerian Muslims burn churches in cartoon protest

18 Feb 2006 19:19:02 GMT

Source: Reuters

LAGOS, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Muslim protesters burned churches in Nigeria's northeastern state of Borno on Saturday in the country's first violent protest over cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad, officials and residents said.

Several hotels, shops and vehicles were also torched in state capital Maiduguri by the demonstrators who ran wild after police fired teargas to disperse them, residents said.

"At least 10 churches, some hotels, more than 20 shops and over 10 vehicles were burned by the protesters," one resident said by phone from Maiduguri.

Residents said they had heard reports that at least two people had been killed. Police were not available for comment.

It was the first violent protest over the cartoons in Africa's most populous country of over 140 million people divided about equally between Christians and Muslims.

The state government said troops were deployed in the streets of the capital to restore order.

"Borno state was shocked and disgusted by ... the civil disturbance that occurred in Maiduguri as a result of the protest by the Muslim community over the publication of a cartoon depicting the Holy Prophet," the state governor Modu Sheriff said in a radio and television broadcast.

The far northeastern state located on the edge of Lake Chad, is a predominantly Muslim state with a sizeable Christian population. The state has recently seen an increase in Islamic radicalism.

Last week, assembly members in the northwestern state of Kano burned Danish flags in protest at the publication of the cartoons and said they would impose a boycott of Danish goods.

The satirical cartoons were first published in a Danish newspaper last year and reprinted in European newspapers this year, triggering protests across the Muslim world.

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When some talk about the possibility of a united Nigeria I wonder if they are talking about another country full of sweetness + light of which I am unaware. When some of us state quite clearly that there is a need for separation we are viewed as ne’er-do-wells and warmongers. What now? How can any justify the massacre of Christians in the North for ‘crimes’ committed by those in far away Europe? I dreaded this day. I knew that the bloodthirsty fundamentalists that populate the North of that joke of a country would act true to type + seize the opportunity to assuage their thirst for Igbo blood. How many have to die for no reason?

Daud, you should be ashamed of yourself for the rubbish you wrote above. What do you mean “Blame for these ugly events must ultimately be laid at the feet of the irresponsible media actors…blah, blah, blah”. So the people that carried out these killings should not be blamed or what? If they were that upset about the cartoons why didn’t your alhajis contribute money to ferry them to Denmark to show their anger? Instead of standing up to condemn this heinous crime you are talking about how non-Christians allow churches to be built in North. What rubbish! What good is it if an Imam charges three times the amount for a piece of land, allows the church to be built + the first Friday he gets an opportunity, he gives the order for it to be razed. Nonsense!

I am so angry right now.

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I don't have complete information about the events in question. Rick failed to link to any reliable information on these events. --Daud
Alhaji Daud, you have once again not spared yourself to establish the fact that you are nothing but a nuisance. [Nshi Recommendation]

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Deadliest cartoon riots kill 16 in Nigeria

By Tume Ahemba Sat Feb 18, 7:19 PM ET

LAGOS (Reuters) - Deadly protests over cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad spread in Africa, killing 16 people in Nigeria on Saturday a day after claiming 11 lives in Libya.
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Many of those who died in northern Nigeria were Christians, killed after a Muslim protest over the cartoons turned violent and rioters torched churches, shops and vehicles, police and local officials said.

It was the bloodiest protest so far over satirical cartoons of the Prophet, first published in a Danish newspaper, that Muslims regard as blasphemous.

"They went on the rampage, burning shops and churches of the Christians. The protesters killed the others. Some were even killed in the churches," said Joseph Hayab, north-west secretary of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN).

You betcha dey will be frying some poor muslim souls in Aba and Onicha right now as we write to accompany those slaughtered christian souls to Vallhalla. Most of the Mosques are also going down.

Meanwhile the war in the Niger delta heats up with more hostage taking and blowing up of enough oil facilities...

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Perhaps, Hojatolislam Ibn Al-haji Anaedo could explain to us why there are so many Christian Churches in the Muslim communities to begin with. Were those Churches located there to provoke the events that we are now witnessing?
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It is indefensible and primitive for people to use the excuse of religion to unleash act of barbarism on innocent citizens. All well meaning Nigerians must condemned these killings and all the culprits should be made to face the full cause of the law like the six Bakassi boys that were condemned to death recently.

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explain to us why there are so many Christian Churches in the Muslim communities to begin with. Were those Churches located there to provoke the events that we are now witnessing?--Alhaji Sexy Dauda
Maybe because of the right to freedom of worship and religion? as guaranteed by the constitution?
If christians live there why should they not have their churches to worship in? Ok they built their churches with the express intention of provoking muslims so that they might be slaughtered?
Daud, I am sorry to say that you are the biggest idiot on this forum.

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Dan Abu Bakr ibn Al-Dauda (the Christian Caliph of Benue State):

You must forgive me if I am not exactly in the mood of commencing a nebulous and unpropitious prattle on “why there are so many Christian Churches in the Muslim communities to begin with” or on if “those Churches [were] located there to provoke the events we are now witnessing” RIGHT NOW as these ugly and totally deplorable massacres are happening. Quite frankly, Alhaji Christian Caliph, if you feel a need to veer off in that direction, please, make known to us your thoughts on that issue and the members of BNW who are sufficiently motivated will explore that angle with you. You are after all richly able to discuss that matter seeing as you are a minority Christian in what can be broadly called the Muslim North. By the way, there will be no need to pontificate on your struggles as a Christian against the Islamists in your corner of the Middle Belt. Just go ahead and type away as usual if only to maintain the mirage of consistency on issues like this here on BNW. Never mind, with time, the weight of your inner personal contradictions will undoubtedly take its toll on your conscience. Cheers!


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Once again, this event is a strong reminder to those of us here in BNW and elsewhere, who despite their very good intentions and their great dreams for/about Nigeria, refuse to ponder deeply on the deep and abiding fissures in the multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and multi-religious construct known as Nigeria. Well, Obasanjo has sent soldiers out there in the Niger-Delta to arrest Chaos, so surely, he’d soon send paramilitary police to these areas of the North to not only end the indiscriminate killing of innocent people but to bring some of the guilty people to justice, right? Let us watch and see. [Embarrassed]

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Daud,

The opinion you have expressed so far in the face of the senseless massacre of innocent Christians does reflect the mindset of moslems in the North of Nigeria. Specifically, that mindset is: "Let us keep Nigeria one by force and maintain the status quo to get our daily bread from the South otherwise they can go to hell as they are not part of us."

Who will save my people from the jaws of these sharks from the North? How do we disengage peacefully? They resisted true and fiscal federalism that is practised all over the world by Countries that have democracy.

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There is nothing in the following cartoon that should rouse a sensible person to rage and murder.
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The day we allow these murderous islamists to dictate what we may or may not depict is the day we surrender to their backwardness. The islamists should know that the teachings of the Quran are meant for Muslims and no one else.

Igbo people in the Arabist North should rise and kill any Muslim who even appears threatening to them. It is foolish to fold your arms and watch your Churches razed and your family members hacked to death.

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I agree 100%. Christians should fight back. They should burn down the big mosques in Kano, Sokoto, Kaduna and Abuja and hopefully that will send a clear message to them even if it results in the disintegration of Nigeria. Enough is enough.
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Of course Obasanjo has now sent troops into Maiduguri and Katsina. He only did it because he has been invited by his northern masters to block the retaliations that were about to follow. These criminals in the North have perfected the macabre art of unleashing death and destruction on Igbo people and "Christians" (euphemism for Igbo), and then, calling in Hausa-Fulani/Yoruba soldiers, a.k.a. "the Nigerian Army," to thwart any planned retaliations. Obasanjo has been their willing instrument in that art.
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Mayhem: Troops deployed in Maiduguri, Katsina
By Rotimi Ajayi, Bala Ajiya & Tanimu Dogare

Posted to the Web: Monday, February 20, 2006


MAIDUGURI — TROOPS were deployed in Maiduguri and Katsina, Saturday, after protests over cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed triggered riots in which 16 people died and 11 churches burnt.

Fifteen of the victims died in the Maiduguri riots and the remaining one in Katsina when police opened fire into a crowd of stone-throwers. The police also arrested 220 suspects and a curfew imposed.

Some residents of Maiduguri have been fleeing the state on account of the riots. The Borno State government, reacting to the riots, set up a high-powered administrative committee to probe the unrest which it described as unfortunate and condemnable.

Christians in the North Central Zone deplored the riots and said they would not fold arms while they are being attacked.
Trouble had first broken out in Katsina when the crowd began protesting against rumours that President Olusegun Obasanjo might change the constitution to allow him to stand for a third term.

But in both incidents, the protesters had initially gathered to hear Islamic leaders denounce the cartoons and to call for their publishers to be punished.
“The situation out there is regrettable,” Information Minister Frank Nweke said Saturday in Abuja after a meeting with President Obasanjo.

“The Federal Government, while it does not begrudge any group the right to defend their faith and their religion, it also believes that certain actions– such as burning of churches and all of that– are not the best way. We are pleased that the security agencies have since moved into action and the situation is under control. Again, we appeal to all Nigerians, irrespective of their faith, to continue to follow the path of peace. We hope that religious leaders will continue to counsel their people to embrace peace and peaceful co-existence,” he said.

Gov Sheriff sets up probe panel

In a swift reaction, Governor Ali Modu Sheriff on Saturday inaugurated a high-powered Administrative Committee of Inquiry into the Maiduguri religious disturbances. He described the incident as unfortunate, condemnable and aimed at disrupting the age-long peaceful co-existence of the people of the state.
He said it was planned by some unscrupulous elements in the state to tarnish the highly cherished name of Borno the Home of Peace, and vowed that government would leave no stone unturned to ensure that justice, equity, understanding and harmonious co-existence prevail in the state.

Governor Sheriff said for democracy to be entrenched and meaningful developments to take place, “we must imbibe the habit of accommodating everyone. We must also forget our differences and learn to live with one another as a family.”
The Committee comprises the Secretary to the State Government (SSG), Ambassador Baba Ahmed Jidda as Chairman and Alhaji Lawan Tom Ahmed as the Secretary. Others members are the Brigade Commander, Police Commissioner, Director of SSS, Commissioners of Works and Housing, Information, Sports, Education, Chief Imam OF Borno, CAN president and President, Igbos Welfare Association.

We won’t fold our arms –CAN

Also reacting, Chairman of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), North Central and Plateau zone, the Reverend Yakubu Pam said Christians in the area would not allow themselves to be massacred as it happened in 2001 in Plateau State. “I want to make it emphatically clear that this time around we will not fold our arms. We will react if they come to us. We are ready for anything and we are not going to be intimidated, he told Vanguard.

“Islamic scholars and leaders should call their people to order and the Federal Government should put more security on ground to prevent the violence from spreading further. What has happened in Maiduguri is bad because there is no how something will happen somewhere else and I will start burning my neighbours’ property and killing. Things that our brothers are doing is out of context. If somebody defame my religion, I should be able to call him to order instead of doing harm to my neighbour with whom I have been living over the years.

“What we even heard is that the security people in Borno State were aware of the violence ahead of time and yet no security was in place to protect lives and property. ”

When these wild animals in the north initiate unprovoked violence, they must not be permitted to have the final say as to when the violence should end. I go even further to say that the time has come to periodically and preemptively attack Islamist assets and people as a way to contain their predisposition to murder and mayhem.

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Ever since my attention was drawn to the pre-Adam lifestyles of these idiotic jihadists, I’ve not slowed down. Even the half percent worldwide that we may deem decent are also retrained by the stupid quran to listen to pure illiterates in the name of imam. One who despite having a formal education who nonetheless follows the edicts given by a stark illiterate imam can never, never ever get any mileage. This is no hearsay, it is a fact! The reason nigeria went belly up is simply because the educated ones are now serving illiterates like the chris ubas, emeka ofors, lamidi adedibus, mantus and a whole lot of petty thieves who now occupy positions that nature never meant to go to them, if you can imagine that. Having followed these menacing jihadists, I can comfortably say nothing about them is desirable. islamists are the only set of people (are they really humans?) that hates people they also can’t do without. If the claim that this view is flawed is taken, why are so many of these enemies to civilization always on the run from their contaminated backwalking islamic countries of origins? People, welcome to what some of us has been calling attention to on so many threads that deals with these jungle dwellers. I knew it was only a matter of time before they display their trademark intolerance hence I questioned the CAN’s judgment in rush to denounce Denmark when it should have been clear to them about the jihadists’ ingratitude. How does one imagine that despite the condemnation of the non-violent act of a Danish paper by the clueless CAN, daud and his leprous family went ahead to burn and kill the people that naively gave support to them? Of all the cartoons the one that depicted the child molester with dynamites smoking from every part of his head captured who the true mohammed was. Read their quran guys! While those of us that know the modes of these people inside out continue to be vindicated I would hope that our brothers who’s been unconcerned will begin to see daud and all the northern elements as hindrance to the survival of Igbo and civilization. In Islam Is A Peaceful Religion????? posted February 08, 2006 02:14 PM I wrote:

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In everything negative the arewa islamic nigeria’s name MUST surface with absence of same in all things good yet those proud to be associated with that name exhibit no shame as if no big deal? How much damage do you think these criminal idiots have inflicted on that country of theirs? Immeasurable!

"The Christian Association of Nigeira has condemned the publication of the cartoons."

As for the confused organ known as CAN, they can Christian their farted asses back into their caves! When was the last time we saw the islamic people commiserate with Christians on the desecration of their religion? Someone should please tell these pre-Adam jihadists to relax already!

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YouBiaFreak:

I see that you have gone on an emotional rampage over the events in Nigeria. You are even so delusional that you now write about Southern Solidarity, an imaginary notion that you are more likely to find in your bottle of Southern Comfort than in the reality that is Nigeria. These emotional outbursts of yours make me think that your inner islamic Jihadist is finally emerging. May your Allah help you.

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I don't understand why BNW has chosen to publish the very same pictures that are causing death in Nigeria.

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I agree 100%. Christians should fight back. They should burn down the big mosques in Kano, Sokoto, Kaduna and Abuja and hopefully that will send a clear message to them even if it results in the disintegration of Nigeria. Enough is enough.- Rick
Rick,

Perhaps you are now seized by the same anger that some of us have had as a long-time companion. There is simply no hope for the continued existence of that country in its present form. A country that cannot protect its people is NOT a country. More aptly, a country that regularly connives against some of its people IS NOT A COUNTRY. Certainly not one worth fighting +/or dying for.

Where are the raucous One-Nigeria voices to tell us how that country can be saved? We need them now more than ever. Why have they fallen silent?

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I don't understand why BNW has chosen to publish the very same pictures that are causing death in Nigeria.
I was against the publication of those photos because of the level to which I believe the faith of others should be respected. However, now that Igbo blood has been shed, the world should know why. Also, it would make the shame of what your people did remain ever before you.

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FAILURE OF REASONING
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I don't understand why BNW has chosen to publish the very same pictures that are causing death in Nigeria. -Daud

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My concern for now is that CSE fails to appreciate the hospitality of non-Christian communities in Nigeria who allow Churches to sprout and flourish in their locale. Blame for these ugly events must ultimately be laid at the feet of the irresponsible media actors who set them in motion by resorting to blasphemy against the religion of their opponents. -Daud
It is bad enough justifying moslem barbarism. For Daud it must be a nightmare scrambling for very flimsy non reasons to justify these murders by an ungrateful economic dependent northern moslems. What exactly is your reason for these murders: too many churches or Dannish cartoons?
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CSE fails to appreciate the hospitality of non-Christian communities in Nigeria who allow Churches to sprout and flourish in their locale.
..............................Daud!
Daud well i give it to you that you are making a point here that most myopics wont comprehend- prior to 1966 pogrom, there are over 3 million igbos living in the North. that sharp increase from 1 to 3 million wont have been possible without some kind of hospitality on the part of Notherners or if they dont want it, it wont be and thats the Truth!
but then is no justification for this killing.what pains much is the fact that at the end those that were arrested will be freed!! no trial nothing!!. its is the same patern since 50 years now. i think it is a waste of time to continue to shout oneself Hoax over this. 50 years of shouting and complaining is that not more than enough!!?
so it is no longer the Fault of the Killers since they are used to it, but the fault of those that are being killed for not organising themselves and do what Isreali MOSSAD did after "MUNICH" germany killing of Isreali Athlets, by sending under cover agents all over europe to track and Kill those directly or indirectly involved.
what will it take to track, kidnapp and bring justice on this killers- of course little! since they are just commoners.
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quote:
Nigerian Army Patrols City After Saturday Riots
By William Eagle
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20 February 2006

listen to interview with reporter Tony Icheku of The Sun


In Nigeria, the army is said to be maintaining a tense calm in the northern city of Maiduguri today. This, after at least 24 people were killed -- and 230 wounded -- in weekend rioting over Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. Muslims went on a rampage Saturday, attacking Christians and burning churches and shops owned by Christians before troops and police restored order.

Yesterday, the secretary general of the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs, Lateef Adegbite, appealed to Christians not to retaliate, saying the riot was a misguided adventure by Muslims who acted against the tenets of Islam. The Maiduguri riot was the latest outbreak of Muslim anger over cartoons originally published in a Danish newspaper last year. Many Muslims believe any depiction of the Prophet Muhammad is blasphemous.

Tony Icheku is the Maiduguri correspondent for the daily Sun newspaper. He told Voice of America reporter William Eagle that there’s calm, with the military patrolling the streets, but also apprehension: “Everywhere there is evidence of destruction…. Whole church premises [and businesses] were destroyed -- most owned by Christians and people from the southeastern part of the country. There is fear because people do not know what is going to happen next. The army…is [fully armed and] patrolling around the city…. Most businesses are closed. It’s like a holiday here. “

Icheku says the Borno State branch of the Nigerian Christian Association warned the police on February 14th about a likely protest – and violence -- on Saturday. He also said that the violence spread from a public lecture on the “Personality of the Prophet Mohammed” by the Borno Muslim Forum, given at 10 am Saturday at Ramat Square in Maiduguri.

The Nigerian Christian Association says there was insufficient security at the event, where the Danish cartoon controversy was likely to be discussed. Also, Icheku says authorities were not seen for three hours after the violence began – and it’s for this reason that the Christian Association is calling on the federal government to remove the Bornu State commissioner of police, Alhaji Abubakar Mohammed, and the state director of the security service, Ruben Amaro. The police commissioner told journalists there is no proof that anyone informed them of potential violence. The director of the Security Services has not yet commented.

Icheku says the Borno state governor Ali Modu Sheriff has blamed hooligans for the violence, and says the incident was not aimed at Christians or southeasterners. He says some of those killed were Muslims, and some of the property destroyed belong to Muslims as well.



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Whatever the Igbo have in the North, they worked very hard for. We went knocking on their doors and instead of welcoming us + giving us shelter as partners in the Nigerian experiment, they directed us outside city limits. Taking Sabon–Gari in Kano as an example, that area is now the nucleus of commerce in Kano because the Igbo are good at what they do + remain relentless despite the artificial impediments carefully placed along their path. We went to Kano + were directed outside the city to Sabon-Gari, an area used as a cemetery. Now, that is tantamount to receiving a guest + asking the guest to make shelter for him/herself outside your home. This practice of Northern unity on the basis of Igbo hatred has been around for a long time. Don’t take my word for it:


quote:
March 1964 (Northern House of Assembly debate)


MALLAM BASHARI UMARU: "I would like (you), as the Minister of Land and Survey, to revoke forthwith all Certificates of Occupancy from the hands of the Ibos resident in the region" (Applause)


MR. MEGIDA LAWANT: "In fact it is quite a long time that we in our part of this Region have known the Ibos and I do not think that at the moment there is any Ibo man owning a roof in Igbirra Division ... I am appealing to the Minister to make life more difficult for them ... "


ALHAJI YUSUFU BAYERO: "Mr. Chairman, I would like to appeal to the Minister of Establishments and Training if he will appeal to the Minister of Local Government about some employees who are Ibos and are working under some Native Authorities here ... I cannot see why they should be in our Region. We are all sure that they are the poorest people in the country".


ALHAJI USMAN LIMAN (Sarkin Musawa): "What brought the Ibos into this Region? They were here since the Colonial Days. Had it not been for the Colonial Rule there would hardly have been any Ibo in this Region. Now that there is no Colonial Rule the Ibos should go back to their Region. There should be no hesitation about this matter. Mr. Chairman, North is for Northerners, East for Easterners, West for Westerners and The Federation is for all." (Applause)


ALHAJI SIR AHMADU BELLO, K.B.E., Sardauna of Sokoto (The Premier): "It is my most earnest desire that every post in the Region, however small it is, to be filled by a Northerner." (Applause)


ALHAJI MUSTAFA ISMAILA ZANNA DUJUNA (Minister of Establishments and Training): "Mr. Chairman, Sir, since 1955 this Government had laid down a policy. First NORTHERNERS, second EXPATRIATES and third, NON-NORTHERNERS. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have noted very carefully all the speeches made by all the Members in the Honourable House and I am ready to put up to my Government their views and I hope my Government will give them consideration ... I think these two things are the major things I have to answer now. One is on scholarship and the other is on how to do away with the Ibos."


ALHAJI IBRAHIM MUSA GASHASH, O.B.E. (Minister of Land and Survey): "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I do not like to take up much of the time of this House in making explanations, but I would like to assure Members that having heard their demands about Ibos holding land in Northern Nigeria my Ministry will do all it can to see that the demands of Members are met. How to do this, when to do it, all this should not be disclosed. In the course, you will all see what will happen." (Applause)

Note that these quotes were recorded long before the war or indeed, the coup which Northern elements want the world to believe was the reason for the massacre of Nd'Igbo which started in the North + spread all over the country.


So, Daud + Weber (how typical of you to leap on the bandwagon of stupidity before you look) stop giving us any of that bollocks about Northern hospitality!

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