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Did Taylor made a huge mistake by trusting Obasanjo and Nigeria. With the west angry with Obasanjo for his third term ambition, do you think Obasanjo did this to save his own neck?. In my own opinion I think this may set a bad precedent for future asylum seekers that they should not trust Nigeria. As much as I don't like Taylor I think handing Taylor over is a breach of agreement, that made him leave Liberia which brought peace to that country.
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Taylor is Africa's answer to bad rulers, butchers, juntas and heads of states who only look out for their own interest and the interest of their tribes.
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WP Taylor is all that, but the point I am making is that Nigeria shouldn't have taken him in, only to succumb to Western Power. Remember here one of the reason Obasanjo is trying to clique on to power for third term, is because he is afraid of what whoever is coming in might do to him. In the future if despots like Taylor could not trust any brokered deal for them to vacate power for peace. It may wind up costing more life than necessary. If Taylor knew that this will happen to him he may have stayed and fight to the last blood thereby spending more innocent bloods.
quote:In the future if despots like Taylor could not trust any brokered deal for them to vacate power for peace. It may wind up costing more life than necessary. If Taylor knew that this will happen to him he may have stayed and fight to the last blood thereby spending more innocent bloods.
Biafra, you are right here but it may also work to make those "despots" understand that there are no safe heavens for them and their families when they do get kicked out of power. That might be a motivation for them to perform.
You are absolutely right, but unfortunately African despots does learn or listen to reason, except Mandela, many Africa despots would rather die than leave peacefully.
You are absolutely right, but unfortunately African despots does learn or listen to reason, except Mandela, many Africa despots would rather die than leave peacefully.
Are you saying Mandela is a despot now?
Implicatively, that is what the above statement meant
PRESIDENT BUSH: Mr. President, welcome back to the Oval Office. We have just had a discussion that covered a lot of topics. Every time I meet with the President he brings a fresh perspective about the politics and the situation on the continent of Africa, and I want to thank you. I want to thank you for your leadership.
The President and I talked about Darfur and the Sudan, and I made it very clear to him that we're deeply concerned about the humiliation, the rape, the murder that is taking place among the -- against the citizens of Darfur. He agreed. And I want to thank you for your compassion.
We talked and strategized about how to move forward, how to make it clear to the Sudanese government that there will be a international response in working toward a peace. We talked about a dual track, that the rebels must come together and negotiate with the government, and at the same time, we talked about bolstering the AU peacekeeping force with a Blue Helmet force. And I explained my desire to have a NATO overlay, to make sure that force is robust.
We talked about economic development. Of course, I brought up energy to the President. He's -- and I talked about the situation in the Nigerian Delta. He talked to me about his strategy to deal with the energy issue.
And finally, I appreciate the decision he made regarding Charles Taylor. In my visit last week with the President of Liberia, we talked about Charles Taylor. The fact that Charles Taylor will be brought to justice in a court of law will help Liberia and is a signal, Mr. President, of your deep desire for there to be peace in your neighborhood.
So welcome to the Oval Office. It's good to have you here, sir.
PRESIDENT OBASANJO: Thank you very much. And as usual, I want to thank you for the warm and hardy reception that you have accorded us.
The areas that I would call the areas of concern, by the time I arrived here last night, seemed to have been definably dealt with by this morning, particularly the issue of Charles Taylor. And as I said to you about a minute -- a few minutes ago, Charles Taylor should be landing in Liberia by now, which should start putting the issue of Charles Taylor behind us.
I appreciate the understanding of everybody and the way that the issue has been handled. I met the press earlier today to actually give what was our own position and how we were hoping to deal with the issue of Charles Taylor's disappearance. And of course, I do not agree, must disagree that we have been negligent in the way we handled the Charles Taylor issue. If we had been negligent then Charles Taylor would have got away. He would not have been arrested if there was negligence or condonation on our part.
Having said that, we, of course, talked about the general situation of peace and security in the West Africa sub-region, and how West Africa sub-region, with Charles Taylor issue behind us, how West Africa sub-region is gradually becoming a haven of peace. We have dealt with Togo, we have dealt with Guinea-Bissau, we have dealt with Sierra Leone. Hopefully, we are now dealing with Liberia. And things seem to be going fairly well in Cote D'Ivoire. Well, of course, we are keenly watching the situation in Guinea Conakry.
Then we looked at the rest of Africa, particularly Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia and Eritrea, and the Great Lakes, generally. Then we talked about the issue of development, particularly security -- supplies, security, stability, and also -- of hydrocarbons from the Gulf of Guinea area, and how we are working hard to establish a Gulf of Guinea commission that will also deal with the issue of reconciling and dealing with ending misunderstanding among those in that -- among countries that are in the Gulf of Guinea, how we can protect and how we can monitor what happens in that area, because the hydrocarbon we need for our own development and we need for the economic development and progress of the world. We are moving in this regard not only by ourselves, but also by our -- with our development partners.
Then, of course, we talked about NEPAD, which is where we work with the G8 and -- politically and individually.
And we -- I briefed the President on what we are doing with the Niger Delta, which is very important. And we are very grateful that the measures we are taking, which are essentially socioeconomic measures, to address some of the grievances, identified grievances, will resolve the issue of the Niger Delta.
I think these are some of the points. And I think -- I want to thank President for remaining his charming self. (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you, sir.
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Yea But what about his third term ambition, is the Obasanjo visit to US #115 times. That star struck buffoon days are number, he better take a clue from Charles Taylor of what happen to those who overstayed their welcome.
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The act of handing Taylor over is not in itself cowardly. What is cowardly and shameful is the fact that Bush treated Obasanjo like a little rat in forcing Obasanjo to arrest and hand over Taylor. The lesson to take from this is that while Obasanjo is in power, Nigeria will be a country without honor and dignity. The man, Obasanjo, is too crude, unpolished, and uneducated to lead a modern nation, and even people like Bush know it, and they are taking full advantage of the clown of Aso Rock.
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... I thought that was so degrading and juvenile. Per GW. for Obasanjo to visit the White House or shake hands with him; he must hand over Taylor..ABC News, reported yesterday.Obasanjo with no formal education proves that a little learning can be a dangerous thing. But handing over Taylor to Liberia remains the right thing to do against African leaders who do not give a damn about Africans. However; the procees was humiliating and shameful. I guess, a beggar [Obasanjo] has no choice.
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The whole thing is disgracful, Obasanjo is making a mockery of Nigeria. If Bush sneeze Obasanjo comes begging. The Man have no neckbone. Is very shameful that this man obasanjo is leading a country with so many graduates and professionals.
The "photo op" was designed to ensure constant flow of oil to the oil-dependent United States.
He used the same trick to his Saudi visitor in his ranch near Waco some time ago. He walked with his palm glued to his visitor's palm. Of course, people that do such things are given an ugly label. But, that label is not what it was then, but to ensure more oil to the United States.
Put simply, Mr. Bush has a lot of diplomacy, very persuasive and a good politician and probably, not as great as President President Clinton.
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