quote: Nigerian Anglican Archbishop Peter Akinola captured headlines last year for leading the worldwide revolt of evangelical Anglicans against the ordination of gay bishops in the U.S. ...
Keep telling them, broda!
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Since when has a Yoruba become your "broda"? You are amazing. You say one thing today about a people you cannot trust, and in your next breath your story suddenly changes. What kind of man/woman are you?
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LOL. I was not refering to you Tim but to the honourable Bishop. I was not refering to "a people you cannot trust" but to the bishop. Are you not aware that exceptions tend to confirm the rule? So dont get yourself all worked up.
Appart from that, why dont you specify next time who is authorised and welcome to reply in response to your post and who is not. So as to avoid confusion. I thought the thread was open for all that was why I posted. Hope I have not hurt your feelings? I thought you would have been happy to appreciate at least one post in this your thread from a person other than yourself. LOL.
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I am not Anglican, But are you now saying that the 17 million Nigerian who are of Anglican faith are only Yorobas. Or Are you saying that Archbishop Akinola is only representing the yorobas. Please clerify that, so that some of those Igbo who are of Anglican faith can understand.
As far as you know Ochiwar May be of Anglican faith. Just like I will address a fellow Catholic brother as a bother regardless of tribe. Because he is my brother in Christ, that may be what Ochiwar is addressing that fact that Bishop Akinola share faith with him. The Catholic Bishop of Abuja is a Yoroba whereas Igbo are the dominant of his flock. So if you didn't want people like Ochiwar or Igbos responding to your posts why did you bring it here where Igbos dominate then?.
I don't have any problem with that, however if a non Yoruba was occupying that same position, I think they will do the same thing Bishop Akinola did. Bishop Akinola is a good leader because he listened to his flocks and relay their feelings to world body. Unfortunately many people like Bishop Akinola are not in Politics in Nigeria that is why people like Obasanjo can do whatever they want and don't give a darm.
How many times have I mentioned your name? I'm lost right here. So, are you saying there are no Ibo Episcopal clerics to drag the bull by the horn assuming there were no Akinolas to take the stance of speaking out denouncing gay marriages and things like that as unacceptable? As a devout Catholic like you claimed, what was the role of the Roman Catholic Church in this matter?
Politics aside, Akinola condemned a dangerous religious proposal which was negative of the human character and moral bearings.
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Tim Oluleye, As usuall you are lost, even in your own thread. The catholic church has no role in this matter, because in the catholic church ordination of gay bishops has never been an option unlike the Anglican church where it was debated to be implimented. Ordination of gay bishops is unthinkable in the catholic church so what do you think should be their role?
Where do we find a Yoruba like Bishop Akinola with the moral fiber to "rise up to the occasion" created by Obasanjo and his croonies in Biafra-Nigeria?
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Mr Tim Oluleye Listen to your self, are you for real, are you at all educated about the goings of Religion Nigeria.
May be I should educate you.
Bishop Akinola is the leader of the whole Anglican communion in Nigeria East - west, North and south. Just like Rev Mbu of cross river is the leader of all the Methodist in Nigeria. For catholic it was Late Cardinal Dominic Ekandem. Now since Francis Arinze is on assignment in Rome, Cardinal Okogie could be the leader now though not officially yet. Though catholic is not structured like other churches, because Rome and Pope controls most of decision making.
Akinola as the leader of all Anglicans in Nigeria every other Bishop in Nigeria whether Igbo Awusa or yoroba, they take orders from him. and he speaks for the whole communion of Anglican church of Nigeria. As far as Anglicans go in Nigeria he is their highest leader. You don't expect Igbo Bishop to bypass Akinola to make statement of the Anglican Position on such issue.
I am not Anglican by faith, but I know enough to know about the workings of this church. For your information, when the Missioneries came to Nigeria, it was in two folds.
Go back to your primary and secondary school history of west Africa you will read about how Anglican and catholic church gain foothold in Nigeria.
Remember that first educational institute in Nigeria were built by missioneries. When Missioneries came to stop Slavery they also came with Education. When Rev Sister Mary sellesie landed in Calaber to stop slavery she also brought Education, which led to the Establishment Hope Waddel Institute Calaber.
Remember that the first three High schools in Nigeria Back then were, Hope Waddel Calaber, Methodist High School Uzoakuli and Methodist Boys High school Lagos. Guess why Calaber and Lagos was the first, because both were shipping outlet for slavery ships. Remember the Notorious King Kosoko of Lagos who profited from Slavery more than any body else.
Now back to the history of Anglican and Catholic churches in Nigeria. There were two prominant names when you talk about missioneries in Nigeria.
Namely.
Bishop Ajayi Crowder for Anglican church, who concentrated in the western Nigeria, and later made some in Road in the Eastern Nigeria.
Schools
Like CMS grammar school Bariga St John Grammar school Ile Ife Oshogbo Grammar school Atakumasa High school Osu near Ilesha and many of other CMS (christian missionery society) the Name we knew Anglicans in Nigeria by, schools built by Anglicans.
Then there is Bishop Shanahan, an Irish Catholic Bishop, who by passed the Western Nigeria and Headed East. That is why if you go to Western Nigeria today there were more Anglican Secondary schools than any other part of Nigeria. Then if you go to Eastern part of Nigeria there are More Catholic built schools than any other part of Nigeria.
Schools like
Bishop Shanahan College Orlu, Holy Ghost College Owerri, Holy Trinity Oguta Sacred Heart of Jesus Aba Christ the King college Onitsha, St Patricks Calaber St Patricks Asaba Immaculate Conception (CIC) Enugu and so many other school. Because of Bishop Ajayi Crowder been instrumental in establishing Anglican church in Nigeria, and yoruba land been the first port of call for Anglican Missioneries, that is why the Yorubas have dominated the leadership of Anglican snod of Nigeria.
Where because Catholic landed in the East first, Igbos and Ibibios have dominated the Catholic denomination in Nigeria.
The first indigenous Cardinal from Nigeria, was Late His Eminence Dominic Ekandem 1. The next was francis Arinze of former Onitsha archdiocese, before Okogie was elevated to Cardinal last year.
The first senior seminary in West Africa for educating Catholic Priest was built in Enugu, The Begard Memorial Seminary Enugu and for many year the only Catholic senior seminary in West Africa. Then later Budija Ibadan was built, then 12 years ago the Seat of Wisdom was built in Uyoh Akwa Ibom state.
So you see brother before you start shouting my name three times make sure you have some facts behind you, otherwise you make yourself look ignorant.
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Wao Biafra, How do youknow all these? You must have been one of those "Ogbu oges" in high school that our parents warned us about. I am impressed. Aka m dikwa na ani o.
Coaliary Enugu-Ngwo was pretty good with the Greater Tomorrow. Igwebuike Awka too. Yeh I remember Eziama Aba. Metro Onitsha had a good year but that was after the East Central State years. Agbogwugwu with the former CKC principal that took his football players when he left CKC. I can't recall his name but he later ran for Anambra State governorship for PRP. I played Greater tommorrow at Njikoka LGA both for my school and as a selected star for the LGA back then.
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That was the good old days brother, I was a goal keeper for greater tomorrow back then. Back when were all in the old East central state, if your school make it from your Division to Enugu then you know that your school have arrived. That was when Principals used to command prestige, if you see a principal coming it sends chill through your veins. As for been Ogbu oge brother, I was never that, however History and Government used to be of my favorite subjects back I high school.
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Back in old East central State, we used to have the following Zonal championship for Acada soccer cup.
Onitsha Zone The following school used to battle to come to Enugu.
CKC and DMGS
Owerri Zone
Holy Ghost College and PMGS Oguta (even though Oguta is in Orlu for Soccer they are always zoned witth owerri, Emmanuel College, Mbaise Secondary.
Okigwe Government College Afikp and Madonna High School Ihiite.
Orlu Zone
St. Augustin Grammar school Nkwere and Bishop Shanahan, Ojike Memorial, and St Catherines, Boys High school Nkwere, the school that Produce late Sam Okwaraji and Nicholas Ukadike
Enugu Zone
Nike Grammer School, University High school Nsukka, St Patrick Emene, CIC and Awkunanu Boys.
Aba Zone
Eziama High school, Igbo National Grammar school, Sacred Hearts, Ngwa High school, though Ngwa High always kiss the bottom of Aba zone. Even All Saints Ehere used to beat up on Ngwa High trouble. Boys high school Mbawusi used to be another good one from Aba zone.
Umuahia Zone
Government college Umuahia
Methodist Uzoakoli Santa Cruz Olokoro Aggrey Memorial Arochukwu
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I played mostly left out or left in both during my primary and secondary schools days but during my one year stint at Ibadan, I was the striker. Yes, if you made it to Enugu then, your school is it. We never made it out of Awka division in those days but we were pretty good , just had the wrong principal who didn’t care about sports period.
As I type, I am listening to an oldie on radiopalmwine’s Igbo selection. Paulson Kalu’s Uwa Nwaogbenye is currently on after Peacocks International’s Uba Awulu Nwa and this new comedian Uche Ogbuagu, very funny guy. Nice way to take it easy as I grade these papers.
Sometimes man just miss thosr good old days for Igboland. We were really blessed in those days but probably didn't now it then.
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During my first year in High school, we were knocked out early at Awka but when the school that represented Awka got to Onitsha Stadium, and I was their as a spectator with friends, I was surprised when they came to me and asked me to play left out for them. We lost to Metro 1 – 0 but the school’s game master wanted me to transfer but I passed. Enough about yours truely and soccer.
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Ednut Oh Yes that Uche Ogbuagu guy is very funny, I was playing his Bad Condition cassette vol 7 this morning as I was coming to work. That guy is very funny. Such a talent, if he were in this country he will have his own show. Too bad he is in that kai kai republic. Yes man those highlife music must be taking you back to the good ole days man.
I am impressed too, but I think you are in the wrong profession. If you had listened to your parents by going to college you would have been a good History teacher instead of the geriatric assistant you are stuck with. However, it is not too late, you can talk to the deposed speaker and he will show you how to get one of the Toronto diplomas online.
quote:I played mostly left out or left in both during my primary and secondary schools days but during my one year stint at Ibadan, I was the striker. – Ed
“Aga aju onye?” LOL. I believe you though. Wow, I’m surprised, three high schools I attended at one point or the other featured prominently on that list up there.
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MeB, I am still a weekend warrior somewhat although it takes till wednesday for my body to recover only to get abused again weekend. Nna Nka ajoka.
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In all your list, you never mentioned St. Gregory College, Obalende and Holy Child. These were elite Catholic schools from the West. What have you been smoking lately?
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quote:I’m surprised, three high schools I attended at one point or the other featured prominently on that list up there.
Something must be wrong somewhere for you to have attended 3 different high schools in-between a five year lifespan that most students spend in high school. Don’t tell us that it was the civil war because like Ednut, we know you were not born then.