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Just because a few Israeli soldiers died fighting the Hezbollah Army, Israel has unleashed terrorism on Lebanon. Today, Israel bombed Lebanon's civilian international airport, killing countless civilians. It is time for Israel to start conducting itself as the nation that it aspires to become. These Israeli acts of terrorism should not be tolerated by the international community.
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You ain't seen nothing yet.Next time the Lebanese will give it a good thought before starting something they will eventually regret. By the time Israel is done Lebanon will be back in the dark ages and they can then live in caves and ride donkeys like Mohammed and his sick jihadist followers did.
Nasrallah or whatever that terrorist Hezbollah leader calls himself should begin to prepare for paradise because the IDF will surely send him there.
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Kill the bastards, Hazbullah and punish the Palestinians for supporting terror [Hazbullah].Isreal is sorrounded by Alien Arab countries, none tickles her fancy or respects it's existence, therefore Isreal has the right to defend itself at all cost.
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You moron Israel is already a nation what nonsense are you talking about, "that Israel aspire to be a nation". I completely agree with Chiboy and Waypoint2biafra. Israel is surround by Alien Arabs who doesn't know anything. So Israel have to teach them some lesson or help them meet Ala and the 12 virgins waiting for them.
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Looking at it from a different angle, Hezbolla has asked Israelis to free their own prisoners in exchanged for the two Israelis soldiers captured. Israelis declined and started bombing Palestinian cities unnecessarily. This type of bullies should be checked by the international community.
If the arab world can be trusted with nuclear bombed, it can also prevent other countries like Israel from their bullies on non-nuclear countries.
Look at what is happening in India and Parkistan. Both have nuclear bombs.
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Israel's is behaving in a cowardly manner. We know quite well that the govenment of Lebanon has no control over Hezbolla. Israel itself has said that Iran and Syria are behind the actions of Hezbolla. So, why dosen't Israel attack Iran and Syria?
Biafra:
Israel is not a nation; it does not even qualify as a client state. Israel is just an American military base in the Middle-East. As soon American power falls, Israel will disappear.
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Daud, I must give it to you, you cracked me.. by your stupid assertion
quote:Israel is not a nation; it does not even qualify as a client state. Israel is just an American military base in the Middle-East. As soon American power falls, Israel will disappear.
You will be waiting for some time.
And by the way, EBolla is going to 'Hear Nwiii" this time around. They think they can just wake up one morning and go and capture Israeli soldiers just like that and then come out on TV and boast...they have just inadvertently issued a reverse "Intifada" on themselves.
Keep watching!
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Your ignorance is quite obvious. Since you know who controls who, why don't you tell us where the two innocent soldiers kidnapped by your criminals brothers are?
That information may just save your terrorist brothers from exursting the halls of virgins; which if care is not taken your share will be gone before you arrive.
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Hmmm a refreshing topic. Methink Israel is wrong to destroy these countries because it loses three soldiers to the other side. In every war, declared or undeclared, it is normal to take soldiers as hostages: Korea, Vietnam and even recently Iraq. The truth is Israel is arrogant and perhaps a nuclear armed Arab country would check Israel's disregard of the Arabs.
By the way, Biafra, when are you going to learn to partake in argument or discussion intelligently? Why do you like personal attack on people whose opinion is different from yours? Inability to engage in civil discourse?
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As a full blown and unrepentant supporter of Israel the only sentence by our in-house jihadist that made sense to me is; ” Israel itself has said that Iran and Syria are behind the actions of Hezbolla. So, why dosen't Israel attack Iran and Syria?” Methinks Lebanon is getting a very bum deal; why not bomb the southern enclave haboring hezbolla terrorists instead of the entire country? And to my brother Rick, I disagree that Israel should let go of the terrorists in their custody in exchange for soldiers who were performing their legal duties to protect their BORDER surrounded by people who want nothing but their destruction. The ones these terrorists seek their relief committed one terror act or another, not the same buddy. The impetus border crossing to snatch young men well withing their own borders was an act of war deckleared by hezbolla and not Lebanon and here my brothers is where my pain lies.
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There is no difference between Hezbollah and Lebanon. Hezbollah is a part of the government in Lebanon, just like Hamas is part of the Palestinian government. No nation can tolerate it’s neighbor harboring a terrorist army at it’s borders, so Lebanon has itself to blame.In any case Israel can revive one of those pre independence Zionist resistance movements, arm them and let them go into Gaza and Lebanon and wreck havoc. That way the IDF can sit back and pretend they have nothing to do with it. Whenever terrorist Jihadist commit a crime they make it look like it is being done by faceless men who cannot be controlled by the authorities, be it in Gaza, Sudan or Northern Nigeria.
In a couple of days expect the world wide demonstrations against Israel to start and then culminate in an anti Igbo massacre in Northern Nigeria. Again we will be told it was done b faceless people and how Islam is peaceful and this people do not represent true Muslims.I say level Beirut if that is what it takes.
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quote:In every war, declared or undeclared, it is normal to take soldiers as hostages: Korea, Vietnam and even recently Iraq. The truth is Israel is arrogant and perhaps a nuclear armed Arab country would check Israel's disregard of the Arabs... Kesu
These chaps were seized in a brazen peace-time operation by hezbollah operatives in order to stir up trouble. I guess the thinking was that the world nay America is war weary from the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sufficiently distracted by the rabble-rousers in Pyongyang and Tehran to think anything of two poor Israeli soldiers. We now know how wrong thay are. God save their souls.
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Rick and company while you attempt to make a distinction between Isreal and Hezbullah's rights to take a soldeir hostage, just remember to differentiate between a terrorist and a soldier with numbers or an army of a nation recorgnized by the United Nation; unfortunately Hezbullah is neither a nation but uncivilized group of soldeirs recorgnized as terrorist group, sponsored as terrorist by Alian Arab nations. The application or the enforcement of the Geneva convention on humane treatment of MIA or POW is disparaged by them.
On nuclear bomb, Try letting Iran get their hands on that cookie and and see who the first target is. I hope you Copy.
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Give up the stone throwing youths for the two soldiers and all these troubles will be over in minutes.
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1) Hezbollah’s actions need to be condemned. In a time when Israel had begun to undertake real measures for peace and a lasting two-state solution, I do not know why Hezbollah had to go and kidnap Israeli soldiers. Perhaps, they reasoned that the diplomatic shuffling at the UN over North Korea and Iran would make people forget about the longstanding conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians. To make matters worse, they started sending shells into Northern Israel from Lebanon’s southern border.
2) Lebanon is not Hezbollah. Hezbollah’s main supporters (financially and militarily) are Iran and Syria. The moderate government of Lebanon actually resents the actions of these Hezbollah terrorists, but they cannot openly challenge Hezbollah because Hezbollah commands quite a large following in Lebanon and the Arab world at large. Besides, as we have seen, they have amassed enough weapons to be a real nuisance should the Lebanese government clamp down on them militarily. In my opinion, Lebanon is almost helpless in this sorry situation. Lebanon, you may be surprised to find out, is pretty receptive to Westerners; it has at least 25,000 US citizens living there. Beirut is as developed as any modern capital in any of these western nations.
3) Israel has every right to defend herself against Hezbollah terrorists. It is always pertinent to point out that groups like Hezbollah and Hamas are sworn enemies of Israel, and that nothing the civilized world does would appease these vermin. Let me restate what I just said: Nothing but the total extermination of Israel will bring an end to Hezbollah’s activities. This group CLEARLY is not interested in any peace overtures. You don’t reason with people like this.
4) Despite the rumblings in the Arab world, Arab governments (though rich in resources) have not shown any willingness to genuinely help Palestinians. I think they consider Palestinians more or less as proxy soldiers/terrorists who should be used to sustain the campaign of hatred against the Israeli state. I daresay that if it becomes apparent that a peace deal is about to be struck or that Israeli-Palestinian tensions are about to calmed, some terrorists from Hamas, Hezbollah, Iraq or other parts of the Arab world would strike a deadly blow at Israel to shatter the fragile peace and renew the cycle of violence.
5) Having said all this, I think Israel’s actions in the past few days have been disproportionate. It has been unnecessarily heavy-handed. Israel believes it is taking a decisive action to root out Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon, but it should already know that the real and unfortunate victims of Israel’s intensive bombing have been innocent Lebanese people. Besides, the obvious lesson from Iraq is that while intensive bombing on suspected terrorist targets may seem effective in the short run, it certainly doesn’t work well in the long run. These Hezbollah terrorists will simply take cover amongst the Lebanese people if the bombing becomes too intense—but as surely as there is a nose on your face, when Israel relents, Hezbollah will simply reconstitute.
Israel has the sympathy of much of the watching world, but I am afraid that their disproportionately larger reprisals, or their refusal to negotiate (unless Hezbollah is permanently crushed) may start tilting the spindle of global empathy towards the helpless Lebanese, or the Palestinians as the case may be. Some moderation and diplomacy is required, unless of course the new Prime Minister of Israel is trying to prove that he is no pushover. Time shall tell how this is eventually resolved.
Dan Abu Bakr ibn Al-Dauda (My friend—the Christian Caliph):
If you have heard the militant Doomsday statements coming from Iran regarding this conflict, perhaps, you might re-evaluate your blanket support of Iran’s nuclear ambitions especially as it is enunciated by that mad mullah called Mamodu Am-in-de-jihad. In any case, as the Christian Caliph that you are, I suppose there is possibly no way you can see anything different from the Islamic script, is there?
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Let us start fund raising for Isreal. They need more funds to purchase more arms to defend themselves against these jihadist.
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The US is rushing weapons to Isreal for use in slaughtering innocent Lebanese. (New York Times)
quote:Weapons U.S. Speeds Up Bomb Delivery for the Israelis
By DAVID S. CLOUD and HELENE COOPER Published: July 22, 2006 WASHINGTON, July 21 — The Bush administration is rushing a delivery of precision-guided bombs to Israel, which requested the expedited shipment last week after beginning its air campaign against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon, American officials said Friday.
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Mohammed Zaatari/Associated Press Israel continued to drop leaflets warning residents of southern Lebanon to leave their homes.
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Day Ten More Multimedia: Israel | Middle East At a Glance Developments yesterday in the Middle East conflict: ISRAEL The Israeli military massed vehicles near Lebanon’s border. Hezbollah rockets hit Haifa and other towns in northern Israel. LEBANON The Lebanese defense minister said the army would resist any invasion. Israeli warplanes hit targets throughout the country and at least 12 Lebanese were reported killed. WASHINGTON The Bush administration is rushing precision-guided bombs to Israel at the Israelis’ request, American officials said. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she would go to Israel tomorrow and then meet Arab and European envoys in Italy. GAZA Fighting continued, with Israeli tank fire killing a man the Israeli military said was a Palestinian militant.Enlarge this Image
Mohamed Messara/European Pressphoto Agency Israeli airstrikes heavily damaged a mainly Shiite section of Beirut's suburbs. The decision to quickly ship the weapons to Israel was made with relatively little debate within the Bush administration, the officials said. Its disclosure threatens to anger Arab governments and others because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding the Israeli bombing campaign in a way that could be compared to Iran’s efforts to arm and resupply Hezbollah.
The munitions that the United States is sending to Israel are part of a multimillion-dollar arms sale package approved last year that Israel is able to draw on as needed, the officials said. But Israel’s request for expedited delivery of the satellite and laser-guided bombs was described as unusual by some military officers, and as an indication that Israel still had a long list of targets in Lebanon to strike.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that she would head to Israel on Sunday at the beginning of a round of Middle Eastern diplomacy. The original plan was to include a stop to Cairo in her travels, but she did not announce any stops in Arab capitals.
Instead, the meeting of Arab and European envoys planned for Cairo will take place in Italy, Western diplomats said. While Arab governments initially criticized Hezbollah for starting the fight with Israel in Lebanon, discontent is rising in Arab countries over the number of civilian casualties in Lebanon, and the governments have become wary of playing host to Ms. Rice until a cease-fire package is put together.
To hold the meetings in an Arab capital before a diplomatic solution is reached, said Martin S. Indyk, a former American ambassador to Israel, “would have identified the Arabs as the primary partner of the United States in this project at a time where Hezbollah is accusing the Arab leaders of providing cover for the continuation of Israel’s military operation.”
The decision to stay away from Arab countries for now is a markedly different strategy from the shuttle diplomacy that previous administrations used to mediate in the Middle East. “I have no interest in diplomacy for the sake of returning Lebanon and Israel to the status quo ante,” Ms. Rice said Friday. “I could have gotten on a plane and rushed over and started shuttling around, and it wouldn’t have been clear what I was shuttling to do.”
Before Ms. Rice heads to Israel on Sunday, she will join President Bush at the White House for discussions on the Middle East crisis with two Saudi envoys, Saud al-Faisal, the foreign minister, and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the secretary general of the National Security Council.
The new American arms shipment to Israel has not been announced publicly, and the officials who described the administration’s decision to rush the munitions to Israel would discuss it only after being promised anonymity. The officials included employees of two government agencies, and one described the shipment as just one example of a broad array of armaments that the United States has long provided Israel.
One American official said the shipment should not be compared to the kind of an “emergency resupply” of dwindling Israeli stockpiles that was provided during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, when an American military airlift helped Israel recover from early Arab victories.
David Siegel, a spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, said: “We have been using precision-guided munitions in order to neutralize the military capabilities of Hezbollah and to minimize harm to civilians. As a rule, however, we do not comment on Israel’s defense acquisitions.”
Israel’s need for precision munitions is driven in part by its strategy in Lebanon, which includes destroying hardened underground bunkers where Hezbollah leaders are said to have taken refuge, as well as missile sites and other targets that would be hard to hit without laser and satellite-guided bombs.
Pentagon and military officials declined to describe in detail the size and contents of the shipment to Israel, and they would not say whether the munitions were being shipped by cargo aircraft or some other means. But an arms-sale package approved last year provides authority for Israel to purchase from the United States as many as 100 GBU-28’s, which are 5,000-pound laser-guided bombs intended to destroy concrete bunkers. The package also provides for selling satellite-guided munitions.
An announcement in 2005 that Israel was eligible to buy the “bunker buster” weapons described the GBU-28 as “a special weapon that was developed for penetrating hardened command centers located deep underground.” The document added, “The Israeli Air Force will use these GBU-28’s on their F-15 aircraft.”
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American officials said that once a weapons purchase is approved, it is up to the buyer nation to set up a timetable. But one American official said normal procedures usually do not include rushing deliveries within days of a request. That was done because Israel is a close ally in the midst of hostilities, the official said.
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Day Ten More Multimedia: Israel | Middle East At a Glance Developments yesterday in the Middle East conflict: ISRAEL The Israeli military massed vehicles near Lebanon’s border. Hezbollah rockets hit Haifa and other towns in northern Israel. LEBANON The Lebanese defense minister said the army would resist any invasion. Israeli warplanes hit targets throughout the country and at least 12 Lebanese were reported killed. WASHINGTON The Bush administration is rushing precision-guided bombs to Israel at the Israelis’ request, American officials said. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she would go to Israel tomorrow and then meet Arab and European envoys in Italy. GAZA Fighting continued, with Israeli tank fire killing a man the Israeli military said was a Palestinian militant.Although Israel had some precision guided bombs in its stockpile when the campaign in Lebanon began, the Israelis may not have taken delivery of all the weapons they were entitled to under the 2005 sale.
Israel said its air force had dropped 23 tons of explosives Wednesday night alone in Beirut, in an effort to penetrate what was believed to be a bunker used by senior Hezbollah officials.
A senior Israeli official said Friday that the attacks to date had degraded Hezbollah’s military strength by roughly half, but that the campaign could go on for two more weeks or longer. “We will stay heavily with the air campaign,” he said. “There’s no time limit. We will end when we achieve our goals.”
The Bush administration announced Thursday a military equipment sale to Saudi Arabia, worth more than $6 billion, a move that may in part have been aimed at deflecting inevitable Arab government anger at the decision to supply Israel with munitions in the event that effort became public.
On Friday, Bush administration officials laid out their plans for the diplomatic strategy that Ms. Rice will pursue. In Rome, the United States will try to hammer out a diplomatic package that will offer Lebanon incentives under the condition that a United Nations resolution, which calls for the disarming of Hezbollah, is implemented.
Diplomats will also try to figure out the details around an eventual international peacekeeping force, and which countries will contribute to it. Germany and Russia have both indicated that they would be willing to contribute forces; Ms. Rice said the United States was unlikely to.
Implicit in the eventual diplomatic package is a cease-fire. But a senior American official said it remained unclear whether, under such a plan, Hezbollah would be asked to retreat from southern Lebanon and commit to a cease-fire, or whether American diplomats might depend on Israel’s continued bombardment to make Hezbollah’s acquiescence irrelevant.
Daniel Ayalon, Israel’s ambassador to Washington, said that Israel would not rule out an international force to police the borders of Lebanon and Syria and to patrol southern Lebanon, where Hezbollah has had a stronghold. But he said that Israel was first determined to take out Hezbollah’s command and control centers and weapons stockpiles.
Israel is targeting and bombing hospitals and cell phone and TV antennas in Lebanon.
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DAUD..... don't forget to include that the rockets, both short and long range used by Hezbullah are from Miami Florida by Lockheat Martin as the dealer. We know it is not Soviet made. Daud, you're ain't gonna get any sympathy from me with this article. I have no kind words to terrorists or Arab nations with no respect to a Super Power that is Isreal; all we hear from them is death to Isreal. If Isreal is doing anything wrong, it is because they're obliged by the cruelty of Hezbullah and Hamas, too bad the Lebanesse people are used as pawn by both Syria and Iran to perpetuate this mad dog hatred against Isreal. I sreal want peace but Arab nations don't. Where is Hezbullah as we speak? I guess they're running scared,scrambling,playing hide and seek in their fox holes praying that UN come as their savior,it appears that Allah has run out of virgins and homicidal bombers.
ON UN I am against UN resolution to police Southern Labanon. I strongly believe that Isreal should be allowed to disarm Hezbullah and stay in that part of Lebanon for 10 years, help the Lebannese Army take control of Southern Lebanan before they vacate that area. The bottom line, any UN resolution must include Isreal disarming Hezbullah, although such law exist but the UN has no gut to enforce it. What Isreal is doing is what UN should have done for ages, blame it on the UN. Hope you copy that.
Hail Biafra
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You are witnessing in the Israeli attacks on Lebanon the very tactic that Nigeria will use against you Biafran rebels next time you rear your ugly head. As we know, Biafra received far less bombardment in three years than Lebanon has received in one week.
Thank you Israel.
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You've got to admit it; the Israelites are cowards. When Tiv warriors invaded your little Biafra, we did it in a humane way, by sending ground forces into your lands as quickly as possibly to prevent excessive loss the lives of non-combatants. Contrast that with the Israelites who are engaged in indiscriminate bombing of Lebanese civilians because the Jews know they will get their ass whipped if they launch a full scale ground invasion of Lebanon.
Even my good friend the Hezbollah Al-Anaedo has admitted that the Israelites over-played their hand on this one. Now, the Zionist terrorists are waiting for America to come and dig them out of the ditch they find themselves in.
One thing we are learning from this misadventure by the Israelites is that without America, Israel is just a third world country. Their entire military is dressed, armed, fed, and directed by America. That makes Isreali a shameless banana republic, which will soon be defeated by its neighbors.
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