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Ayodele
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Amanda:
That Chief "Folanke" in the picture looks like a woman to me, abeg. I agree that not all Yoruba names have meanings. I have also seen the name Folanke used by other Yoruba people.


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Amanda Wekson
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Ayodele,

You come carry wahala come put for first floor shelf for me, eh? Alright now, which iyawo be our Folanke?

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Ayodele
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Amanda;
Which kind trick question be that? Make you go here go judge for yourself. Me I think say the one for left be " Chief Folanke, " the one for right be " Delegate "

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Amanda Wekson
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Ayodele,

I've gone to the site you recommended. I see that the elderly woman on the left is named Folanke. Another observation I made is that all the names mentioned there have surnames with the exception of "Chief Folanke". Now this Chief Folanke, is she the same as Chief Folake Solanke that Anu Nti referred to?
For example, Mobolaji Aluko's wife can be addressed (if she's a chief) as Chief Aluko or as Chief Sope (this is a made-up name) Aluko...not as Chief Sope. Same should be applicable to "Chief Folanke"...unless Folanke is a surname instead of a first name.

So let me ask you; as a true Yoruba, does the name "Folanke" exist? Does it exist as a surname or first/second name? Is it gender-freindly or is is strictly to males or females? Does it have any meaning?
Your answer could help shed light on this issue since our Folanke has gone fishing on us.

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Ayodele
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Amanda wrote:
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So let me ask you; as a true Yoruba, does the name "Folanke" exist? Does it exist as a surname or first/second name? Is it gender-freindly or is is strictly to males or females? Does it have any meaning?

Your answer could help shed light on this issue ....


Amanda:
YES. The name "Folanke" exists. I have not seen it used as a last name, ever. Also everyone I have known to use that name is female. May be that is why Aluko may not be familiar with it. But, there are many younger women and girls with the name "Folanke." I know one of them personally. The name "Folake" also exists, and it is used by both men and women. The same way that both men and women use Olu. I do not know that "Folanke" has an exact meaning. But, many Yoruba names do not have a meaning, either.

I hope that helped.


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Ayodele
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BTW. I agree with Aluko that the "Folanke" in that link is a typo. I believe they meant to write "Solanke."
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Amanda Wekson
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Ayodele,

Thanks for your clarity. We can lay the Folanke debacle to rest...at least for now.

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Mobolaji Aluko
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Ayodele:

Thanks for some of your links and clarifications.

I made a pledge earlier in this thread:


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For each verifiable Yoruba person that bears "Folanke" that you give to me - that means name and address and phone number - I shall donate $100 to your favorite charity. Add to that each Yoruba person who has shortened his or her "Bunmi" name to "Bomi" or "Bumi".

UNQUOTE

I am now prepared to expand on that pledge:


1. I do not care whether the "Folanke" name is first name or last name of the Yoruba person. I just want it verifiable, and I will give $100 to each Yoruba person who bears that name.

2. For EACH verifiable MALE YORUBA person who bears "Folake", I will give $100 to your favorite charity. My bet is that there is NONE, ZERO, ODO, ZILCH.

To compare "Folake" to "Olu(wa)" is plain ridiculous, and calls into question the very authenticity of your own Yoruba name Ayodele.


Bolaji Aluko

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Aluko:
Quite frankly, your first bet is a completely bogus straw-man bet because the underlying dispute is fictitious - a fiction of your mind. Contrary to the false premise of your bet, NO ONE in this forum has asserted that they know a "Yoruba person who has shortened his or her "Bunmi" name to "Bomi" or "Bumi". This is a straw-man that you have raised. Do not expect to impress anyone by raising your own straw-man and then striking them down.

I read Idowu's challenge to you and he wants to know if you deny that there are Yoruba people with the names "Bomi" or "Bumi." That is the challenge that you should address. Do not manufacture your own disputes, unless your objective is to stifle debate instead of enhancing it. Take your own positions and let your debate opponents take theirs. Debate occurs at the juncture where you launch a frontal attack on the positions that your opponents have taken.

You freely admit that you are a sympathizer of the OPC terrorist organization. Yet you expect people to take you seriously when you make a bet that hinges on your being furnished the names and street addresses of potential OPC targets. Haba! People are not that dumb.

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[ October 02, 2001: Message edited by: Damian ]


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Alauko:
An Edo-Igbo monkey like you has no business challenging the authenticity of anything that a full-blooded Yoruba man or woman has said. You lack standing to do so. You are not a member. You are an outsider begging for admission.

Amanda:
For your information, I am absent from the forum because I no longer have the access to the Internet that I used to. Don't worry. When I visit the States in December, I will make up for whatever slack there is. When your Igbo outcaste, Alauko, says something that deserves an answer, I will respond to him.

Anus Nti:
Believe it or not, I am glad you survived the attacks in the US. Now, GO TO HELL, you moron.


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Ahhhh Bolaji:
I wonder what part of Ayodele's or Folanke's "political proclivity" you are addressing when you make comments questioning the "authenticity" of their Yoruba names. Remember that "Onye Ara Ogbete" has a "political proclivity" too.

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Folanke:
Congrats oh! You are now a Senior Advocate of BiafraNigeria.

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Amanda Wekson
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Folanke,

Up you on your BiafraNigeriaworld Senior Advocacy title. You certainly earned it with your side-kick idealogy.

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Sisi Folanke:
Congratulations and try as much as you can to free your name from suspicions; and try to make it not questioinable, any longer.

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Aaaah Folanke,
Congrats o for the elevation as a Senior Advocate even though u are not a secessionist.

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Ayodele
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Aluko:
Since you have admitted that you are not a true Yoruba, there is no need for me to have any further discussion with you about Yoruba issues.

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Folanke,

Congrats on your elevation to the status of a senior advocate of BiafraNigeria. You are probably one of the best pound-for-pound pugilists in this board. Keep it up.

After my buddy Anu nti raised intial doubts on your name, I'd conducted a private research(since I'm not Yoruba)to verify the existence of the name Folanke. My finding is that the name Folanke is indeed an authentic Yoruba name.

Neither you nor indeed any other memeber of this board are required to produce an archive to verify the authenticity of their preferred handles.

Hopefully, someday we'll go back to serious debatable issues when the double-facedness and contradictory life style of some of us will be shoved in the public domain. I see tears!

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Mobolaji Aluko
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"Ayodele":

Since you are not a true human being, there is no need for me to have any further discussion with you about human issues.

Ogula!


Ohafia Odumeze:


Since you have found that "the name Folanke is indeed an authentic Yoruba name", might you be willing to tell us what it means, either in shortened or in long form?

Thank you.


Bolaji Aluko

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Dr Aluko must you always resort to insult and abusive words?. Can't you sometimes show your level of education and maturity and rise above the fray. The more you try to get in every lick the more you cheapen yourself and your PHD/professorship.

Folanke congrat on your elevation to Senior advocate.

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Sam, Sam, Sam???

Umuibe,

I just stumbled on this bit written by a handle called "uncle Sam" at Egbeomo.com:

I think it might be necessary for southern residents in kano etc to start seriously arming themselves. These kind of incidents are becoming too rampant.... My support for a One Nigeria is beginning to run out. Something must be done and done now.


If it is the Sam we know then his name must be submitted to the FBI for advocating break-up and taking up of arms.

Hmmm, at this rate Clement Ikpatt will be left clutching his "Aremu is nyze" certificate. I just heard from the grapevine that his "Ibo" friend Okenwa went to see Uwazurike and has started to change his opinion on MASSOB!

We live in exciting times!

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